So Nancy Pelosi’s nephew (once or whatever removed), the current and confirmed ruler of California, has banned sale of new gas cars in 2035.
He does this by sheer will, like a king, this banning of the cars. He woke one morning and said, “I ban thee!” and, lo, the cars were banned. Such awesome power!
Why? Because, he says, “carbon pollution.” And because, he says, “climate crisis.”
What makes this fascinating is that neither of these things exist—and we suspect NPN knows this, too. Which, if so, means he’s lying.
Now why might he lie? For one, he believes he must justify his command. NPN knows the rabble under his command might become restive about having to abandon for scrap their old vehicles, suffering great losses, and then having to reach into their meager savings to buy brand new cars (of limited use). And we know, given the events of Jan 6, our rulers are easily frightened by a roiled populace.
So NPN sought to comfort his subjects by telling them that Science was on his side (he had his Experts pretend to vote about The Science), and that therefore what he commanded is a noble thing. A thing that will please the Planet. Fewer virgin sacrifices will now be required.
Still, one suspects that having to quiet his subjects is not NPN’s most important reason. That is likely twofold: the sheer pleasure of command, and the even greater pleasure of donations.
Forbidding gas cars will force people to buy new electric cars—in a state that already has routine black- and brown-outs because of its inept energy policy (indeed, on Tuesday NPN was out warning people not to use electricity). I stress the word new. And new without the benefit of trade ins (mostly). And for vehicles that cost a lot more than the old forbidden kind.
Which means the people on the selling side—the electric car makers, the charging station makers, the banks—are going to grow rich over this. Rich people are nothing if not generous, and will reward NPN and his crew with donations, ensuring they stay in power and keep the lucrative ban in force.
California has about 39 million people, and has (one source says) about 14.2 million registered cars. All of which are now doomed to the scrap yard—and can’t really be used as trade ins, or not easily. True, car dealers will likely still gas cars as trades, but given California will surely squeeze out gas stations, traders won’t get much for them. Plus, used gas car sales will plummet.
New electric cars cost on average about 66 thousand bucks—a subsidized 66 thousand bucks. Non-luxury gas cars cost about 20 thousand less than this. Anyway, 14.2 million times 66 thou is about 973 billion dollars. Over some small number of years.
This is close to a trillion.
It’ll pop a trillion considering how many must take out loans.
Car loan life is now about 72 months; for those who buy. Leasing is something more eternal. Those who lease usually keep leasing, car after car. It would be about the same for people who take out loans. They would pay about 80 grand in total (including loan costs) for electric cars, 25 grand more on average than for a gas car.
Maintenance costs are surely more in electric cars, too. Here’s a funny invoice for a guy replacing the batter for his Chevy Volt. Just under $27 thousand. Which is to say, $27 thousand. After just over 70,000 miles.
If you didn’t laugh it’s because you missed that Florida tacked on a $1.50 battery fee. Worth every penny, too.
Unless somebody invents something new, the kind of batteries used in e-cars don’t recharge forever. Just like in, say, your camera, they lose efficacy almost immediately. So new battery purchases are about to become a thing. A very big thing.
Most of you won’t care about this last thing, but here’s another instance of the Doctrine of Unexpected Consequences. Electric cars will kill AM radio.
Turns out the cars generate too much electric noise, killing AM reception. You can shield the radios to a certain extent, and add other similar measures, but it’s all in vain, because it’s the car itself that radiates like a broadcast tower. You can’t get the radio antenna far enough from the car.
This will only encourage the movement toward paid services. More money goes bye bye.
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“Fewer virgin sacrifices will now be required.”
Are there any virgins left in California? Any who might have been found there, have probably moved to Texas (if they value their virginity).
The future is Uber. California Über Alles with NPN as their Übermensch. LOL.
Ann
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This is, by far, my favorite story of the week:
“A recent event in West Virginia was dripping with irony. Apparently, tourists traveling from DC in an electric powered vehicle (EV) laughed as they passed gas stations until they ran out of juice 170 miles into their journey. Ironically, their trip abruptly ended ended at the entrance to a coal mine. The DC folks in the dead EV stopped laughing and had to be rescued.
“5 heroic coal miners saved the day by pushing the dead vehicle to their plant to be re-charged.”
Coal Miners Push Dead Electric Car to Coal Mine:
https://www.floppingaces.net/2022/09/05/coal-miners-push-dead-electric-car-to-coal-mine/
2035? — a lot can happen in a dozen years. Maybe the Overlords will be banned instead.
Worth reading and watching
The story gives “both sides” (e.g., the story is about an older tesla where you can’t replace individual cells) :
but they still don’t explain how EVs help anything or any one
https://electrek.co/2021/12/23/tesla-owner-blows-up-model-s-dynamite-battery-replacement/
Then this explains the “new” future subsidy: sounds like America will (somehow) (reenter) mining of rare earth
Government will fix everything
Then this explains the “new” future subsidy: sounds like America will (somehow) (reenter) mining of rare earth
https://theweek.com/economy/1015983/does-your-dream-ev-qualify-for-subsidy
Government will fix everything
Bad mistake by the coal miners. They should have pushed the car into an abandoned quarry or filled it with coal and torched it.
Why help your enemy? That enemy wants to destroy their livelihood.
The Bible teaches us to give food and water to our enemies. It never teaches a people must fix the chariots sent to destroy them.
Many may think I am merely being churlish for the heck of it. I am not, I wish those men had destroyed that vehicle built to kill them, their families and away of life.
“Fewer virgin sacrifices will now be required.”
Somehow I have a feeling that NPN’s use of virgin boys shall remain undiminished.
“New electric cars cost on average about 66 thousand bucks—a subsidized 66 thousand bucks. Non-luxury gas cars cost about 20 thousand less than this.”
Raise your hand if you’re dumb enough to skip the enormous discount you get by buying a car at least a couple years old. Now take that hand and slap yourself with it.
It seems like a used EV might come with a big battery expense?
By 2035 I’ll be eighty-one and probably shouldn’t be driving anymore, anyway. In the event I do still need to drive, I hope Mr. Bagpipe’s optimism proves prophetic.
That’s all fine and good Briggs but where are you going to find any
transvestite vestal virgins in California? And speaking of burning
India and China are on track to break all records this year and between them
burn 80 billion tons of coal. Gavin is of course aware of this he’s basking
in virtue while bankrupting the State.
Jim
a big battery expense
I believe that’s true
Electrek counters that newer EVs don’t have that problem because you can replace the batteries bit by bit
So instead of 23K all at once you can pay 1 or 2 K a month over 1 or 2 years (now THAT’s nickel and diming if you consider 1K a nickel and 2K a dime) (with better battery tech you also MIGHT get an extra year or two before then)
umm ..
1 – it seems more likely to me that most people in California will just stop buying new cars creating, instead, new value for old cars. Ever see photos of present day Havana? it’s still 1956 there for many car owners and that, I think, is closer to California’s future than an all electric nirvana.
2 – something new? seems to me hydrogen fuel cells using on-board hydrogen generated from nano aluminum pellets is a possibility. The AL can be recycled at solar (!) facilities (yes, nuclear is better, but california..) and cars can be recharged at normal gas stations by exchanging cans of water for cans of pellets.
Heating and A/C in EVs is provided by the car’s battery. Last year when the east coast had that big blizzard and all those cars were stranded on I-95 in the VA area, every single EV ended up with a dead battery after a few hours. Brrrrrr….
Imagine the joy of a hurricane evacuation, as more and more people are forced into EVs. Of course, mobile generators to charge dead EV batteries are powered by diesel.
Vermont Crank, maybe those coal miners are looking forward to 2035 with satisfied chuckles, realizing how much COAL it will take to power all of those mandatory EVs!
A little more on Ann Cherry’s comment …
“… They couldn’t pull it because it was all plastic underneath and nothing to hook up to,” the state lawmaker explained. “So here are 5 coal miners pushing a battery car to the coal mine to charge up.” …
Have read there can be lots of plastic on the EVS …. best check before buying to know if it can be towed at all!
From:
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/09/05/coal-miners-push-stranded-dc-drivers-dead-electric-car-to-charge-it-up-at-coal-mine-1281376/
The year 2035 is a ways down the road …. keep apace with God our Father and His ways through His Son and by the Holy Spirit.
God bless, C-Marie
Why don’t our leaders simply declare bad weather illegal? It would be as effective as these goofy electric car requirements.
@Jim: Wow. Never thought of that. In a fully electric world, no more used cars. Environmental catastrophe.
I’m with Monsieur Bagpipe on this one – 2035 is far enough in the future that this is just virtue signaling for the uninformed.
The underlying problem here has been with us for years – California is just too big to be a single state, it breaks the benefits of Federalism. The idea is that the states provide an experimental laboratory for solving tough problems, so that bad solutions can fail and the rest of the country can learn from the failures and do better. But not with California – it’s so big, that by sheer weight many of it’s worst ideas just won’t die. In other words, California seldom has to worry about accountability for bad ideas, which makes it the liberal paradise of politics.
As an engineer, I’ve cursed California many times over the years. A few years ago, it was their new battery charging efficiency standard. The California legislators who wrote the standard mindlessly applied it to basically any device with a battery, although clearly phones and laptops and other mass consumer products were their target. But the standard also ensnared many low-volume products. Manufacturers were forced to waste scarce engineering resources to meet the standard, resources that should have been spent solving real problems, or developing new products to address real problems. I asked the managers repeatedly to adopt a “not for sale in California” policy, but they wouldn’t even consider it, I can’t explain why. We ended up killing many of the older low-volume products rather than ‘fixing’ their charging circuits; customers were hopping mad, and the used market for the discontinued products surged. Idiocy.
California’s policies have significantly reduced the standard of living for the entire country, and the unintended consequences have worsened even the problems the policies were intended to address. If California were broken into two or three or four states, the rest of the country could laugh at the insanity of the west coast states.
Milton, that comment was superb, mainly because I couldn’t agree more.
John B((), that article you linked was very useful: “Everything to know about the Biden administration’s new EV subsidies | The Week”.
I’m going to send it to many, including some lefties. They are a publication that is enjoyed by middle-of-the-road liberals, kind of like how “Time” used to be.
As John B(() notes …”this explains the “new” future subsidy: sounds like America will (somehow) (reenter) mining of rare earth. https://theweek.com/economy/1015983/does-your-dream-ev-qualify-for-subsidy
Government will fix everything”
From the article:
“Under the law, an electric vehicle must contain a battery built in North America with minerals mined or recycled on the continent,” The Associated Press explains. “And those rules become more stringent over time.” By 2024, 40 percent of the materials in the batteries have to be sourced from North America or a country linked to the U.S. through a free trade agreement, and that quantity rises to 80 percent by 2027 and 100 percent by 2029.
If the automaker doesn’t meet the sourcing requirement, the credit drops to $3,750. And if the battery isn’t manufactured in North America — 50 percent of its value at first, rising to 100 percent in 2029 — the rest of the tax credit disappears.
And there’s more. “Starting in 2024, if any minerals or components are sourced from ‘foreign entities of concern,’ including China or Russia, the vehicle will not qualify for any tax credit,” Consumer Reports notes. “An analysis this year of the EV supply chain from the International Energy Agency shows that the vast majority of minerals, components, and battery cells are currently sourced from China.” The world’s top producer of cobalt, another key EV battery component, is the Democratic Republic of Congo.
This all “means huge, wrenching changes to the battery supply chain have to happen over the next seven years if these tax credits are going to benefit EV consumers in the long run,” Mashable points out.”
We should all buy stock in mining companies, because they are going to make a fortune mining for rare earth minerals for electric car batteries, right here in the USA…..and we won’t just be mining for batteries, but for windmills and solar panels, too. For example, a single mega-windmill requires over four tons of copper….
NONE of this makes sense except to a psychopath. What’s that? See: https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/149-testing-for-psychopathsthe-stuff#details
Here in the UK there is another problem with EV mandates (of which we have our own coming up, albeit weaker than this insane new law if our host has reported it correctly), besides the cost, dangers to the electricity supply, and the environmental problems in producing batteries. Possibly a lesser problem in the US, but I imagine will still affect some people in the cities. Many people live in appartment buildings or terraced houses. These lack any driveway, and either have no garage or (for modern houses built in the last century or so) it is in a block some distance from the house. The best you can do is to park your car on the street, and if you are lucky you will find a free space within a few hundred yards of your home. So how would someone living there charge their cars while parked at the nearest approximation to being at home, without a massive infrastructure project to create charging points along every affected street? For many people, an EV is not only an additional expense, it is also wholly impractical.
BB, thank you for bringing up inherent problems w/ EV charging stations….and they are FRAUGHT w/ problems. They really don’t think these things through, do they, when they’re spending OPM.
I’d heard that about half the charging stations are unusable, mostly due to vandalism. So I did a simple Google search, “Are EV charging stations being vandalized” and lo and behold, pages upon pages of articles. See for yourselves.
The take-away point from reading but a few: Sometimes, the vandalism is just for fun, like stuffing hamburger meat into them or randomly tagging or pulling a few wires. But mostly…..Think COPPER!
All down the line…..EVs themselves use about 3.5X as much COPPER in their manufacture; their charging stations contain COPPER wires and cables; and the WIND and SOLAR energy require massive amounts of COPPER: a whopping 4.5 TONS of COPPER go into a single mega-windmill.
GREEN ENERGY = COPPER MINING. Capeesh? Call your financial adviser and tell them to buy copper mining stock. Especially now that we know, thanks to the article about EV subsidies posted by John B((), that subsidies are contingent upon more mining, perhaps much more, is coming to the USA.
Once again, the greenies are hoisted on their own petards, but unfortunately they rather enjoy it, and want to take the rest of us with them. Just say no.