It can’t be C. Can it? I must have miscounted somewhere. I’m too lazy to check where. Either way, it’s too damn many.
EXPERIMENT YOU CAN TRY AT HOME
The social, not medical, pressure to vexxed is immense. Here’s an explanation for why this is so.
At the bottom of this second, I give you a test, or experiment you can try yourself, to prove the contentions I make.
Start with this report from a correspondent: Female with history of allergies (rice, of all things, wheat, many others), and a compromised immune system. History of steroid shots to calm allergic flare ups. Etc.
Lady was adamant against getting vax, and was warned not to by her physician. So she had a medical exemption ready to go.
But because of immense pressures from her peer group, especially at office (here I leave out personal details), caused her too much distress. So she surrendered and got the Moderna shot (only one so far; this was early last week).
Several hours after, her palms began breaking out. By the next morning, her entire body was covered by weeping pustules (hives?). Reportedly very painful.
She went as usual to her doc and asked for antihistamines or a steroid shot. She was refused because she was told it would “cancel” the vax’s effects. The extent this is true, I have no idea; in any case she received no care.
So she sits suffering, wondering whether to go through the whole thing again a second time to become “fully” vexxed. Her conclusion is as yet unknown to me; this is still on-going.
Now about the pressure, our main point. We already know the vexxed are terrified of unvexxed, based on magical thinking. Why?
The unvexxed are BAD PEOPLE. They don’t want the shot and cause, via magic, the gods to be angry at the group, so that even the vexxed will be punished. The vexxed believe their vex’s powers are CANCELED by the unvexxed. Because of bad thoughts; i.e. magic.
Don’t believe me. You can prove this easily. Tell the next scold you meet that you aren’t vexxed. Let them vent a while. Then say: You misunderstand. I REALLY WANT the vex! It’s just that I can’t have it because the doctor said it could kill me with my terrible immune system. – I WISH I could get it. I WANT it!
The scold will then leave you alone. Your unvexxed body is no longer a threat to them. Your desire cancels the bad magic; your desire is proper and without sin and you are safe (to them).
This experiment works. Try it.
I originally put this out as a Twitter thread early last week, and a lady answered:
I tried this experiment bc like the woman you mention I’ve have anaphylactic shock caused by medication (specific shots) 6x. Both my doctor & I firmly believe it would indeed kill me. Everyone I work w/ directly found out this. No longer bother me about getting it. It’s nuts.
The experiment works.
I KNEW IT!
https://twitter.com/DilleyDilley8/status/1443314545938796547
LIES
Experts are the dumbest smart people alive.
They’ve told a lot of lies during this panic, but this is the lyingest lie of all. Complete obvious unmitigated liquid bullshit.
Here, for doubters, is a sting on Pfizer, in which a scientist admits natural acquired immunity—as in all history—is superior to the protection due to the vex. Video.
Then there’s this:
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1443715596521295872
We’ll discuss that telling video in more detail tomorrow.
MANDATORY LIFEJACKETS
OUR GOVERNMENT IS IMPURE EVIL
There’s no other way to put it, really. Evil. The people in charge of us are wicked. They are abominable wretched greedy arrogant ignorant creatures.
They hate us, and we rightly return that hate.
Boy, won’t our rulers and Experts blush after they fire, harass, demonize, and kill those who won’t take the vex, and it turns out the vex just isn’t that effective, is even harmful in many cases, and that covid will be with us, like flu, forever.
They’ll say, “Gosh. Our bad.”
Then we will all hug it out and move past all this.
Right?
WOMEN WORKING
“Mandatory poster Australia Police glues to doors of interstate visitors, after meeting and isolating them first at the airport and then delivering in a prison minibus accompanied by a police car with several police officers to the address of their house arrest.”
Reported to me from Anon.
WHAT A COINCIDENCE
China PCR test orders soared before first reported COVID case
Purchases of PCR tests in China’s Hubei Province surged months before the first official reports of a novel coronavirus case there, according to a report from researchers in the U.S., the U.K. and Australia.
Oh go on.
LET’S CHECK IN ON EXPERTS
Models generate forecasts, not evidence. pic.twitter.com/CzIwhEwwyh
— Matt Ridley (@mattwridley) October 4, 2021
More details here. Best that can be said is they’re at least issuing the forecasts to the public—so we can see how bad they stink.
Finally this:
‘Trust Us To Make Health Decisions For You,’ Says Government Health Agency That Can't Define What A Woman Is https://t.co/XLfCDnTyG2
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 1, 2021
VEXXINE PASSPORTS
Vexxine passports, as we already knew, proved to be a fraud. Yet another noble lie in a sea of lies. In which we are drowning. Get it? Get it?
Want more lies? We got ’em!
I hadn’t seen this little montage until now. Interesting. https://t.co/vaewidY2AX
— Shane B. Murphy (@shanermurph) October 2, 2021
THE NUMBERS
Sources: CDC State data (source), CDC official toll number one, number two (the old weekly file, now suspect). Causes of death (source). Deaths by age. Covid & flu. WHO flu tracker. All current as of Monday.
Daily tests (from here Johns Hopkins) have reached idiot levels. 3.5 million EVERY DAMNED DAY. This is 150% higher than when the doom was at its peak killing power. The number thus represents a vast increase in bureaucracy.
We haven’t done this in a while, but here’s the lifetime-so-far rates of dying from the doom by age. These are the since January 2020.
POPULATION FATALITY RATES
Age COVID OtherCause
1 Under 1 year 0.0000300 0.00860
2 1–4 years 0.0000037 0.00038
3 5–14 years 0.0000038 0.00023
4 15–24 years 0.0000340 0.00140
5 25–34 years 0.0001400 0.00270
6 35–44 years 0.0003900 0.00410
7 45–54 years 0.0010000 0.00720
8 55–64 years 0.0022000 0.01600
9 65–74 years 0.0049000 0.03200
10 75–84 years 0.0110000 0.07500
11 85 years and over 0.0290000 0.22000
Or this:
This is still a disease of the very old, and not especially important, as far as cause of death goes, for the young.
Weekly doom deaths.
Like I’ve been saying, down now, but increasing soon in the north. A la this:
Michigan (lunatic lefty governor) and Minnesota (ditto) are bellweathers. Just now starting to tick up. Do recall the fast dropoffs at the end are due to late counting.
Recall also that if we did this for flu+pneumonia, which killed about 200,000 every year, we could keep everybody panicking all the time ever day or every year.
Let’s also remember the great physician slaughter of 2020. Septicemia, Alzheimers, other deaths increased in 2020:
Cancer, heart disease, and “unknown” are much better killers than the doom, and have been for some time.
And, yes, flu is still on the FBI’s Most Wanted List.
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Along these same lines, check out https://frederickrsmith.substack.com/p/vicious-vexxine-21-09-15
The thing that currently annoys me are the people who are still pretending that the shot makes any difference with transmission. My high school son has already had the covid and he has immunity.
Last night he asked my mother in law if he could join her for a service project at her church as he needs the volunteer hours for school. Her answer was, “Not unless you go get your shots!”
It was unclear whether this was a church requirement or simply her own desire (which is what I suspect), but regardless, why anyone thinks that is a sane condition to put on anyone, much less a teenage boy, is beyond me.
Your precious vaccine doesn’t prevent you from catching the covid and it doesn’t stop other people from giving it to you, either. Why are so many people so caught up in caring about other people’s choices?
(I know the answer for my mother in law, it’s because she regularly watches TV news and takes it all at face value… and thinks that anyone who disagrees with any of it is doing so solely because of evil political beliefs)
Mattias Desmet, Professor of Clinical Psychology at Ghent University in Belgium has an explanation based on mass psychology as to why these people insist on “magical thinking” and why it cannot be fixed by rational arguments.
https://youtu.be/uLDpZ8daIVM
Patricia Highsmith is right : Normies are morons.
I’m still a little confused on why regular flu deaths are so low and even reporting flu infections is low.
Is it because it’s being confused with Covid? Is it just not being reported? A friend of mine thinks it’s because everyone is wearing masks and washing hands more.
How he can’t see that would also lower Covid transmission is beyond me, but other people I’ve talked to seem to readily accept it.
JR Ewing: Great way to teach the kid that God hates everyone that your mother-in-law does and to stay away from evil teachings.
Yes, a friend of my husband’s got vexxed at 70 because his family harassed him. Personally, I just disowned mine when they got stupid and pushy. It’s a better technique but you do have to be independent and a nation of sheep can’t handle that. (DNA is the Devil’s best friend and always has been. Evil in a family member is overlooked by most people.)
Weeping pustules can be many things, hives among them. If she’s really lucky it’s erythema multiform major or Steven-Johnson’s syndrome and she may end up in the hospital. SJS is fatal without treatment. Let’s hope she doesn’t die due to an evil, horrible person who is pretending to be a doctor.
Why doesn’t anyone chase the vexxed down the street screaming how they are going to DIE if you can get close? Magical thinking is a wonderful weapon. Dressing as a zombie sounds fun too. Why not embrace the stupid????
People become experts because they are too stupid to work in the real world, especially in politics. Consider that experts have murdered Darwin twenty times over in the last decade. Evolution is a lie, Darwin a complete cad.
Go Rand Paul!
Yes, our government is pure evil and hates us. We are stupid and reelect them so we don’t have to do anything but sit on our backsides like the lazy idiots we are. We get what we deserve.
Australia is and always was a penal colony. What part of that do you not understand??????
I wish the bank used error bars as big as those used by these stupid, worthless modelers. I could be rich off their stupid.
WE ARE DROWNING IN LIES BY CHOICE. Stop pretending otherwise.
A bureaucracy is a parasite that kills one host and moves on to the next. Covid is a bureaucratic parasite.
Frederick Smith: Wow, I haven’t seen reference to the Illuminati since David Icke went full-on annoying capitalist and I gave up reading his stuff. Thanks for the reminder that things never really disappear.
Just got back from hospital for hip replacement surgery and rehab. X-ray technician asked me if I was vaccinated. Told her no, I already had Covid-19 18 months ago and was immune. She warns me natural immunity won’t be enough for the Delta variant (need the vaccine). I tell her she’s totally wrong. T-cells will attack Delta variant aggressively. Another male nurse in rehab tells me infections and deaths are up — almost all are among the un-vaccinated, he says. I tell him it’s the exact opposite. These people are frightened they may have made a stupid decision that will kill them. So they want to crush people who oppose them, people who are saying to them: ‘You’re going to die because of your stupid choice’
John mosbrook:
When I was in the hospital with Covid a few months ago, everyone I dealt with was very respectful about my non-vaxxed status (“that’s your choice to make”) but the doctors themselves still were very pushy about needing to get the shots “in a few months”, especially when I had followups with the pulmonary and cardiac doctors a couple of weeks later. “You really should go get vaccinated. You don’t want this to happen again and it could.”
I later went to see a different doctor with whom I had an existing relationship prior to my hospital stay and who is not associated with that same large hospital system. He was previously ambivalent about universal vaccination, especially for a youngish healthyish guy like myself, but said that now that I had a confirmed “severe” case and had recovered, I absolutely did not need the vaccine and that it could possibly be “more dangerous” for me. I asked why no one affiliated with the hospital had told me anything similar and he said that the doctors were just following official corporate policy. The doctors may or may not believe it’s necessary, but the hospital system requires them to tell that to patients, so they do. It’s a function of federal funding – they don’t want to piss off the feds – and political zealousness. They also get paid, again by the government, to give vaccinations, so they want to push that as well.
It was an eye-opening conversation.
I am now 100% received from the covid, btw.
I audited the update numbers. Long story short, you were too eager to get to 100, the real number is 86. Here’s the results:
Your first big post with models and statistics discussion was on 2/13/20 (several previous posts also discussed the rising specter in the news), and you started the Tuesday weekly update on 2/25/20 with Update II. You skipped the update number for weeks you didn’t post updates, so the subsequent update number would be correct for the number of weeks since you started the updates. Here’s the errors that I found:
1. Update XXXVII (10/27/20) was mislabeled as XXVII.
2. Update XXXVIII (11/3/20) was then mislabeled as XXVIII. However, you stopped carrying this error forward on 11/10/20, correctly labeling it XXXIX. So these are both one-off errors.
3. The first major counting error was on 5/4/21, which should have been LXIV, but was labeled LXIX.
4. The error was carried forward until 8/17/21 (actual Update LXXIX). With your error continuing, it would have been LXXXIV, but the same switching of “X” for “V” occurred and so you skipped ahead again to LXXXIX.
5. This carried forward to last week (9/28/21). Then you went from XCIV on 9/21/21 to XCIX (rather than XCV).
Correcting back makes this week Update LXXXVI. Update C (which it seems we must reach and go well beyond…) will be on 1/11/22, and CIV for two years (of weeks) of updates will be reached on 2/8/22.
If the lady with “hives” is reading, maybe she can try an OTC corticosteroid cream. I am sure it’s available it in almost every country. (Though she probably already knows that)
How is that screen shot of population fatality rates (since January 2020) generated?
mosbrook,
Hilarious for several reasons. First, nothing is on the rise, except foolishness. “Cases” down, deaths down.
And how could the vax, developed before the Delta variant became a threat, protect you better than having recovered from it?
Frightening to be led by so many who believe untruths.
Crew,
This, divided by populations of each age group.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
CDC used to give pops. Doesn’t anymore. Curious, no? These are the ones they used to give:
Briggs,
Didn’t you claim to be an expert of something? LOL. Your readers are so smart. Just read their comments. They agree with you.
To understand how normies think about the vaccine, you need to understand the “sky is green” effect (which I am shamelessly taking from Jesse Kelly.)
It goes like this: imagine that tomorrow the government and big business decided, for whatever reason, that they wanted people to say the sky was green. There would be some scientist making a report that although the sky may seem blue when you look at it, “the science” says that it is really green. There would be wall to wall coverage of this new “scientific fact” on every mainstream news outlet.
Then academics and the woke crew would get involved. We would be told that the only reason that anyone ever thought the sky was blue was because of imperialistic western culture (maybe they’d point out the ambiguity between blue and green in classical Chinese, though more likely they’d base the accusation on nothing.) You would have black and Asian celebrities saying that they always knew the sky was green, but they were afraid to say it because they would be attacked by racists. Every celebrity would talk about how liberating it is to finally be able to say the sky is green. TV shows and movies would start making the sky green through CG effects, and there would be discussion of “correcting” old movies and TV shows that had the “wrong” color. Pop scientists like Bill Nye or Neil DeGrasse Tyson would mock those who still believed that the sky was blue as people who probably believe the Earth is flat.
Within a year of this, at least a third of the population would be absolutely convinced that the sky is green. I am being conservative here; probably over 60% would believe it.
(And if you don’t think this is true, consider how many people now believe that men can become women.)
People will literally be willing to ignore their own eyes if exposed to enough propaganda. And when we get to something like the vexxines, whose effects and dangers can never truly be observed, and it is almost trivial to get people to believe anything.
My 2C worth; nobody seems to consider that a lot of this crazyness could be driven by the huge shake-up of the healthcare insurance market since (and prior to) the inception of C19.
Think about it; the health insurers, already battered by negative interest rates, on-again, off-again Obamacare, then C19, then Operation Warp Speed that essentially cuts them out of the loop.
Meanwhile Pharma has completed a hat trick: 1) complete indemnity, 2) EUA that allows use without the regulatory cost, and 3) direct business to government contracts, globally. No more health insurance company or other middle men to interfere. It’s magic!
But I wonder about the Life and Health Insurers. For example, how would an insurer compare the risk associated with vexxination for A) Novak Djokovic and B) Joe the plumber?
My guess is that they would want (B) to be vaccinated in order to protect their investment for an unvexxed (A), from a risk perspective.
Hence the moneyed interests pushing the proles be injected, and keeping their major risks as far away from the vexxine as possible.
It’s about money no matter which angle you consider.
re: Update C Update (off by about 14?)
Yes – if this were 100, your first report would have been Oct/Nov of 2019
Your first corona doom was mid February in 2020 followed by a second Doom article on the 18th? Your first Update (Update II) on Feb 25. I think you went off track about a year ago (I think you repeated a couple of numbers and then tried to make up for that).
I was watching Bourne this weekend and Bourne Legacy is so about Coronadoom, deep state, gain-of-function, viral transport systems, stem cells, Intel six ways to Sunday.
I remember liking Legacy but now I think it’s the best one.
Interestingly the books were total and complete garbage … so bad … not sure why I put myself through the torture … but Legacy – not written by Robert Ludlum – was not entirely bad
You’ve gotta hand it to Tony Gilroy for developing the film series and for the Gilroy brothers for the last one.
Remember when swordfishtrumpet linked us to a fact-checka, an expert even! And the fact-checka not only didn’t check any facts, nor even the words of who it was quoting, but then outright called the very concept of herd immunity “suicidal”?
I’m not an expert, much less a scientist, even less a people-person, but I think JH is swordfishtrumdum… The little attempts at limpwristed jabs are a dead giveaway. But we’ll need a PCR test to tell for sure…
because of immense pressures from her peer group,… she surrendered and got the Moderna shot (only one so far; this was early last week). Several hours after, her palms began breaking out. By the next morning, her entire body was covered by weeping pustules (hives?). Reportedly very painful. She went as usual to her doc and asked for antihistamines or a steroid shot. She was refused because she was told it would “cancel” the vax’s effects.
So why not get the antihistamine or steroid shot? She didn’t want the vaccine anyway so why should she care that it gets cancelled? Nobody has to know and she can claim she got the vax shot.
This is the longest “just two weeks” in history… Sad to see Covidians double-down on dangerous fantasies. Facts are overpowered by the social psychology of the consistency principle (belief follows action and vice-versa). That’s one of the big reasons to force the jab on so many.
Where do we go from here? I presume something “Biblical” awaits ….
“The unvexxed are BAD PEOPLE. They don’t want the shot and cause, via magic, the gods to be angry at the group, so that even the vexxed will be punished. The vexxed believe their vex’s powers are CANCELED by the unvexxed. Because of bad thoughts; i.e. magic.
Don’t believe me. You can prove this easily. Tell the next scold you meet that you aren’t vexxed. Let them vent a while. Then say: You misunderstand. I REALLY WANT the vex! It’s just that I can’t have it because the doctor said it could kill me with my terrible immune system. – I WISH I could get it. I WANT it!”
This line of enquiry interestingly ties into a book that I’m studying at the moment: Jean Baudrillard’s Simulations and Simulacra (1983).
From his chapter: “Strategy of the Real”
“Of the same order as the impossibility of rediscovering an absolute level of the real, is the impossibility
of staging an illusion. Illusion is no longer possible, because the real is no longer possible. It is the whole
political problem of the parody, of hypersimulation or offensive simulation, which is posed here.
For example: it would be interesting to see whether the repressive apparatus would not react more
violently to a simulated holdup than to a real one? For the latter only upsets the order of things, the right
of property, whereas the other interferes with the very principle of reality … ”
I’m beginning to wonder if Baudrillard’s philosophical musings are coming to fruition before our eyes …
Rudolph Lundgren,
Or, for another example, how about trying to convince everyone that there’s an invisible, disembodied super-intelligent mind that controls everything from outside of time and space, that really loves us, and that had a son whose mum was a married virgin in first century Gallilee?
No, wait – you’d never get anyone to believe that.
Mr. Trombone is such a perfect example of the “atheist who thinks that hating God is synonymous with science/reason” that if he did not exist, we would have to invent him.
That begin said, it is sad that he does exist and I do pray for his conversion.
I don’t care how much “social pressure” the normie sheeple and Branch Covidian dolts of the world put on me – Not getting it, and that’s that. Beyond that, I don’t care what happens any more. Cultivating my own garden, and the rest can go to Hell.
Insane that tests are now at 3.5 million a day (I assume much due to corporations, schools, etc., following Biden’s lawless “mandate” and more people being forced to get tested every week for something they have no symptoms of). Imagine how many additional false positives from when testing had fallen down around 1.5 million per day (which was still too many).
I fear more insanity is about to return – an anecdote: Been clearing out my bookshelves of some items and selling on Amazon marketplace, so had to go to post office a few times in the past 10 days to drop off packages. Last week all was normal in terms of operation (no muzzle signs – only about 10 percent of customers wearing, though PO employees were, of course, still muzzled – no plexiglass BS at counter, etc.). Went yesterday, and suddenly little plexiglass screens are back in front of the counter (only small, approx 12″ x 18″ pieces on a stand at each place, raised a couple inches off ground, so a space underneath, plus space all around sides and top, so it’s not as if they’ve sealed off the whole area properly. In other words, utterly useless BS – pure theatre. But the fact that they were back at all now after being gone for months is disturbing. I had to laugh though at one of the guys working at the counter, who had a sizable beard and whose “mask” was just a bandana tied across his face from the nose down like a bank robber or outlaw from a movie Western – absolutely useless joke as far as preventing a virus from entering or spreading (indeed, he’s probably more prone to other illnesses wearing that mangy thing all day). No muzzle sign back though, and the other 5 customers I saw were all maskless, so some signs of hope.
I guess I’m lucky I have a rational doctor who looks at real science and thinks the vexxine is worse that useless. I don’t know if he gave in and got the shot or just retired. He’s my age and could retire if he wanted to retire. I’d back him all the way on retirement.
Hun: OTC is not strong enough usually. Powdered oatmeal may work. Actually, my back healed the fastest because I couldn’t put anything on it. I thought was interesting (so was the pattern of whelts—very cool).
I don’t think Briggs claims to be an expert. He uses marketing techniques, but he pretty much admits to being human and making errors. (Consider that JH has seems to have extreme peer pressure to conform.)
Magnus: I’m still waiting on the “biblical” and expecting the dark ages, not the end.
swordfish: It’s sad you can’t tell science from religion. Or are you saying Covid IS religion????
Again, with the Fauci syndrome, if the the unvexxed are the problem and the foreign invaders from the south are unvexxed, THEY MUST BE PART OF THE PROBLEM. Remind everyone of this. Fauci is LYING.
Mr. Briggs:
“Study: Type 2 diabetes combined with obesity and Covid makes for shocking 71.4 percent death rate…”
https://www.ajmc.com/view/diabetic-nephropathy-obesity-increase-covid-19-mortality-risk-in-patients-with-type-2-diabetes
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Sheri: “swordfish: It’s sad you can’t tell science from religion. Or are you saying Covid IS religion????”
Scientism is Swordy’s religion.
Fauci is High Priest of the Branch Covidian wing of Scientism.
Peter,
I think it’s the PCR tests used to confirm COVID “cases”. Lots of stuff that isn’t COVID will get a positive test result on a “COVID PCR test”, including the flu. So it’s documented as “COVID” instead of flu because this helps drive the COVID mass vaccination campaign, which is a cash cow for vaccine manufacturers and those who own stocks in Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, etc.
Another business succumbs to the paranoia: Just a couple weeks ago when I checked, The Palace (concert venue in Louisville) was not requiring muzzles or proof of vax or test (just the vague boilerplate recommendation to muzzle if unvaxxed). They too, now, are requiring proof of vax or negative test within 72 hours of event.
Just sickening. I hope people simply refuse to patronize any venues, events, or businesses engaging in this idiocy. Let the events and venues fail. Let them collapse in to bankruptcy and oblivion. It’s the only way forward.
Dennis,
Exactly. You can’t live without groceries. But you can live without mass entertainment, especially that produced by people who hate you.
Briggs, thank you for another wonderful post with all those great videos.
Cameron, that study extract you posted was interesting, and not too long.
The researchers analyzed 75 hospitalized and symptomatic Covid-19 patients at a German community hospital, between March and August of 2020.
They found that patients with diabetic nephropathy (a serious kidney-related complication of type 1 and 2 diabetes) or a combination of diabetes and obesity, had a substantially higher risk of Covid-19-related mortality. No surprise there, but the ones w/diabetic nephropathy had a whopping 73.3% death rate.
This study was done in early 2020, so presumably doctors in Germany and elsewhere have gotten better at treating Covid-related disease even in sicker people. (*The Truth is Out There*)
We can’t help but notice, however, that oft-preventable or treatable “co-morbidities”, such as morbid obesity, are not only glossed over, but talking about it is “fat shaming”; not only that, they at one time offered Krispy Kreme donuts as a reward for vexxination, a mixed message if ever there was one.
Meanwhile, healthy or not, symptomatic or not, we must test early and test often ($Ka-Ching); and we must allow them to turn us into human GMOs, and trackable bio-hazards and/or really expensive cattle.
Even still, even AFTER the bi-annual booster-du jour (like cattle, you’ll never see the list of ingredients, and they’ll never be liable for their product), we must be constantly fearful of the UnVexxed and “Vexx-Hesitant” and/or the Next Variant, and we must be constantly shielded w/plexiglass and partially-soiled face diapers, at least as high as our noses…lest we smell their sulphur?
Here’s a clue, it’s not working, except with Midwits, who have virtual clothes-pins on their noses behind their masks, and gov’t-approved tourniquets on their tiny brains to keep them safe from non-compliant thoughts, which are crimes, even here, even now.
While the study extract that Cameron posted, dutifully keeps Covid-19 center-stage, it does note the obvious: very sick and very old people, especially ones with advanced diabetic organ disease, while more likely to die of Covid-19…are also more likely to die of just about anything else, including, we might add, a stiff breeze:
“Various conditions have been reported as predictors of an unfavorable outcome in COVID-19 patients,” the study authors said, adding that the “most severe cases seem to occur in the elderly or in patients with distinct co-morbidities including cardiovascular disease or diabetes.
“Besides COVID-19, the authors noted that T2D is also a risk factor in patients infected with other viruses such as influenza, respiratory syncytial virus, SARS-coronavirus, and MERS-coronavirus.”
“The vexxed believe their vex’s powers are CANCELED by the unvexxed. Because of bad thoughts; i.e. magic.”
I have a slightly more complimentary understanding of the mindset, but it would be interesting to see this taken apart from the probability angle in which Mr. Briggs has previously demonstrated his expertise.
If I were arguing on behalf of a sane pro-mass-vex advocate, I might phrase it thusly: “It’s not a question of ‘my vex doesn’t work without your vex’. It’s a question of cumulative risk. The vexx reduces the chances of transmission to X%; therefore, my chances of contracting the virus in general are reduced by X% if I am vexxed, but my chances of contracting the virus from you (and for you from me) are reduced to X% times X% if you are vexxed as well. A vexx that reduces transmission odds by 50% accumulates to 75% effectiveness between us, and one that reduces odds by 90% accumulates to 99% odds reduction between us. Basically, I’m not comfortable with my chances with only one transmission breakpoint between us, but I am comfortable if there are two.”
Which sounds a lot more plausible, until one asks the viraphobe making this argument, “Given that you’re only talking about relative risk reduction for cumulative vexx effectiveness, and that this almost certainly doesn’t shift overall absolute risk by even a full percentage point, are you really telling me that you’re OK with depriving hundreds of thousands of their civil liberties because you’re willing to risk a 1.1% chance of infection but not a 1.3% chance?”
Stephen: Do you have any links to reliable data about transmission reduction rates? Vaxed and unvaxed, and also how and whether any initial transmission reduction diminishes over time for the vaxed?
Also, just out of curiosity, are most tests still “free” for everyone? [Not really free, I know – taxpayers paying for it both directly through their taxes and indirectly through inflation and everything else resulting from the Covid response]. Or does it depend why you want it – i.e. free if required by employer for job, but not free if you just want a test to go to a concert, or football game or something (not that I’m caving-in on this, just curious)? Is there a limit to the number of “free” tests one can have? How much do they cost if one has to pay? (I have seen reports of travellers in some countries having to pay out-of-pocket for their tests, and also for their “voluntary” hotel quarantine as well – but wasn’t sure about other voluntary tests for venues, etc.).
If people had been forced to pay for these tests (and jabs) out-of-pocket, instead of the cost being hidden through govt subsidies, the testing mania would have ended long ago. As it is, the test and vax companies have a good scam going with govt picking up the tab for everything, and no incentive to stop it. Testing numbers or positives drop? Just ramp-up the cycle count and engage in more “case” fear porn, etc.
“Do you have any links to reliable data about transmission reduction rates? Vaxed and unvaxed, and also how and whether any initial transmission reduction diminishes over time for the vaxed?”
Personally, no, largely because I’m not enough of a statistician to know how to judge the various reports that can be found around the net; I was mostly pulling simplified numbers to make the point about cumulative risk reduction.
I do remember that for the initial Pfizer trials the relative risk reduction was measured at 94% (90 cases out of 15K controls vs. 5 cases out of 15K vaxxed), but this only translates into an absolute risk reduction of a bit more than half of a percent (0.6% down to about 0.01%). Assuming, as seems extremely likely, that performance in the real world is measurably poorer than in the clinical trial, it seemed to me likely that that final absolute risk reduction wouldn’t be much better even with the multiplier effect of two vexx “layers”.
But the thing that’s really telling to me isn’t even whether that numerical difference in risk is significant or not, it’s that not a single advocate for mass vexxing is describing it this way. They simply go straight for the “if everybody isn’t as safe as possible then nobody’s acceptably safe” stance. I’d be willing to listen to an argument about what constitutes acceptable public risk. That nobody seems willing even to make one is what’s driving me nuts.
Would anyone like to guess the real COVID numbers. I’ll go first.
Deaths – 10,000
Jab deaths – 15,000
Hospitalizations – 25,000
Lockdown caused deaths – 20,000
Leave a comment with your numbers. No prizes will be awarded. For entertainment purposes only. Void where prohibited.
Somebody knew something.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/china-placed-massive-order-pcr-tests-months-first-official-covid-case
Vexxines aren’t working in most vexxined state… but you have a better chance of leaving the hospital alive after its puts you in there, amirite?
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/not-supposed-happen-us-state-highest-vaxx-rate-sees-record-surge-covid-cases
Vexxines really not working in Ontario. Docs are starting to fund their consciences.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontario-er-doctor-resigns-over-mandatory-vaccines-and-falsehoods/
LOLOLOLOL! Lookee me! I’m a fack-checka!
https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/twitter-fact-check-ivermectin-pfizer-big-pharma/
Thanks, Stephen. Yeah, I guess I was thinking the “transmisison reduction” you mentioned above was some slightly different metric than the basic relative and absolute risk reduction numbers in the second post.
Johnno: Notice too in that Revolver article how the Twitter “fact-checker” and the Pfizer spokes-shill identity Ivermectin simply as “often used to prevent parasites in animals,” and “an animal medicine,” as if that’s it’s only use, and despite having been used for decades for various human uses as well (I’m sure well into hundreds of millions of doses by now). Just another part of the ongoing effort to demean and suppress Ivermectin and any other treatments than the new experimental Covid jabs. Disgusting.
Perhaps it’s just me, but has anyone else noticed that, despite the sometimes bitter banter and caustic chaffing between commenters on this blog, the freedom to do so is unconsciously maintained, at the very least?
Reminds me of the internet of the good ol’ days.
Yes, pre-1984.
My vaccinated parents, aunts, and uncles (along with a sibling and niece) refuse to see my family and/or hold family gatherings because wife and 2 kids are not vaccinated. I am however, different story for another time…
Yes, the vaccinated part of my extended family refuse to see those that are not vaccinated. This is a fairly new development, since was were spending time together as recently as July. What in the actual F*CK…
“Reminds me of the internet of the good ol’ days.” Oh, yes, I remember it well!
Thought this might be interesting for those who don’t know that Ivermectin is an antiviral. (Originally compiled by Yen, a poster on another board.)
5 MOAs (Mechanisms of Action).
1 )..At infection SARS-COV-2 binds with its spike to the human ACE2 receptor. IVM binds to the spike and ACE2. By that it sits in between and can inhibit the infection.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article….
2 )..Disrupts RdRp an enzyme needed for viral RNA replication. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10…..
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/r….
3 )..Disrupts another enzyme which is called 3-chymotrypsin like protease (3CLPro). Is pivotal for viral replication.There are certain enzymes which are responsible to translate certain areas of viral RNA
Info: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-0….
4 )..Disrupts viral cargo to the cell nucleus. The transporter are Importin alpha/beta. Usually when a human cell recognizes a stressor it creates substances (for instance IFN-alpha and Tumor necrosis factor TNF) in order to increase defenses for the nucleus and markers to the neighbor cells to alarm them as well.
SARS-CoV-2 now uses these transporters Importin alpha/beta to send a message to the nucleus making the defenses staying low and preventing the warning to the neighbor cells. IVM blocks the message from being attached to the transporters Importin alpha/beta. So there is no delivery to the nucleus..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article….
This is also mentioned at the article posted by Palladin above. It’s been found at HIV and dengue before, but since SARS-COV-2 uses these transporters as well, it’s an MOA against it, too.
5 )..And finally it disrupts NF-κB pathway. This means is anti-inflammatory and reduces the risk for a cytokine storm to occur.
Why it matters: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10…..
And why it can: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19453757….
Ivermectin meta-studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/
Conclusions:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/10000/Bayesian_Hypothesis_Testing_and_Hierarchical.8.aspx
The study concluded:
“In our view, this Bayesian analysis, based on the statistical study data, provides sufficient confidence that ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19 “
If you have lost a loved one due to Covid-19 and a doctor failing to prescribe or administer completely safe, life-saving treatments which have been shown to be effective… Or, have you lost a loved one due to PCR misdiagnosis or dangerous Covid-19 hospital protocols (intubation and Remdesivir)? Call 1-800-MAL-PRAX!
I’d only quibble that, on the contrary, I’m sure this policy is quite CONSCIOUSLY and purposefully maintained by our gracious blog host. 😉
And THE SCIENCE ™ came down from the next dimension, and became man. And its name was calleth…
https://youtu.be/Dm_pAoy6oOM
See Expert.
See Expert run.
Run bitch! Run!
https://youtu.be/Uj2Ia9GlIM4
Fully vexxed mayor of Baltimore “tests positive.” Bu… but… just imagine what could have happened if he wasn’t! USE YOUR IMAGINATION DAMMIT!
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/baltimore-mayor-tests-positive-for-covid-despite-being-fully-vaccinated/
Fully vexxed Emmy statue holder dies. Bu… but… just imagine how much more worse and painful his death could have been if he wasn’t! USE YOUR IMAGINATION DAMMIT! ST. PETER IS CHECKING YOUR VEX PASSES TO GET INTO HEAVEN!!!
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/emmy-winner-dies-of-covid-he-was-fully-vaccinated/
Prof. Briggs, what is the denominator used to calculate those “POPULATION FATALITY RATES”? Are those annualized rates? Or should I take “These are the since January 2020” to mean that each number is the probability of dying per 279 days?
I find the seroprevalence figures confusing, many figures around the globe give a low figure for Wuhan spread through the population, but if ,a population has a high vaccination rate shouldn’t you find antibody response in the vaccinated?
Either the figures are rubbish or the vaccines don’t work?
Here is what CDC says on seroprevalence.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html
Johnny,
Numerator is number said to have died by the doom/other since Jan 2020, and the denominator the population at beginning of Jan 2020, all according to CDC.
These are the actual rates for that 19 months.
Thanks, sir!
I didn’t read the “2020” closely enough. I should have said 644 days.
The anecdote:
Can we hear more? for the full history?
1.
She was recommended not to have a vaccination. Patients with a history of allergy are not vaccinated in England. She must have fibbed at point of receiving the vaccine.
2
Non Steroidal Antinflamatories (NSAID’s) are available over the counter, along with paracetamol which are the two medicines advised for any mild or moderate side effects of the vaccine. Patients are ALL told this on receipt of the vaccine. Those symptoms are all listed as cold or flu-like symptoms. Other kinds of reactions (suspected as being cause by (or coinciding with) vaccination, do require medical advice if only to check that further intervention is not necessary.
3
When you say needed a “steroid shot” that covers a multitude of sins. “Need” virus “given”
4
AZ vaccine versus Moderna or Pfizer were prescribed according to clinical need here. For example patients with certain autoimmune disorders were given AZ.
AZ being developed in the usual way and not a new technology, meant that it was more easy to predict tolerance in patients with immune disorders.
I would also just add that there is hysteria all around on this debate where stress is running high and fear etc. That he did not prescribe a steroid tells me, (assuming the DR is competent) that her skin condition was not sufficient to warrant steroid injection. i.e the benefit of the jab was considered greater than the actual reaction which she had.
IF her reaction were so bad that it warranted prescription medicine, the clinical decision would be to do the necessary regardless of any other inoculation considerations.
We need more information to make a judgement about what the Dr decided. Neither Dr let her down but perhaps they could do as Drs rarely do, give her more of their time and information to explain why.
Having had one jab now she will have received a good level of immunity so that as and when she meets the real thing out there among the English, her system, which already struggles, will cope a little better. The first time is the worst. The First Cut Is The Deepest. The other reason why she may have been advised against is that despite the reaction her system fails to mount immunity. That sounds unlikely given her reaction. The entire problem with this disease has been the overreaction of the body in certain individuals, not just those with poor immunity in general.
So if I were her,I wouldn’t have a second jab.d avoid the second jab but give it a fortnight before deliberately exposing myself to very high risk situations.
Since she never agrees with the Drs and does what her friends think, she doesn’t have much of. Complaint. Trust I the problem there, not peer pressure.
Since she never agrees with the Drs and does what her friends think, she doesn’t have much of a complaint. Trust is the problem there, not peer pressure
…and the bit above, but why can I only see it when it appears as posted?
Joy: Who is the she who “was recommended not to have a vaccination.” Confused as to who and what story you’re responding to above.
Oh, sorry. You meant Brigg’s original hypothetical. Thought you were referring to a more recent story about someone posted among the comments.
Dennis: Don’t worry about Joy. She makes no sense.
Velly interethtink:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243813
So ModeRNA is no good for under those under 30 (or 60) years old? Gee, you think the other mrna vexxines are any better?
Dennis,
Hmm, maybe I’m not the only one who doesn’t read all the posts?
It was an story about one of Briggs contacts, sorry for the confusion
Rats! Editing typo: “for under those under 30 (or 60) years old” should be “for those under 30 (or 60) years old.”
Anyway, myocarditis is almost six times higher for up to 60 year olds. It is many times higher than that for younger cohorts, who are in no danger from the virus itself. Myocarditis has a poor prognosis as at least 50% of those diagnosed with it die in five years.
Another “anecdote”: Patient had the shingles vaccine (both doses), got double-vexxed with Pfizer vexxine, came down with, drumroll, please… shingles.
Seems symptomatic for the vexxines wrecking previous immunity.
VAERs for the vexxines are still going up despite medical staff being actively discouraged from filing the paperwork.
So, yeah, all the vexxines should have been withdrawn yesterday.
“Hmm, maybe I’m not the only one who doesn’t read all the posts?”
There are nearly 60 comments by now, and some have included links and or reportage regarding various Covid-related cases, so I just didn’t realize at first that your reference to “the anecdote” and a vague “she” referred back to Briggs’ original Allergy Lady case at the top of the post.
5th video from Project Veritas!
Pfizer Whistleblower LEAKS Execs Emails EXPOSING Suppression of Covid Vax Info From Public
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUXGB5FzhPc
Canada so crazee.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/canada-unveils-vaccine-mandate-travelers-federal-employees
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontario-human-rights-commission-calls-vax-passports-generally-permissible/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/over-600-unvaccinated-doctors-on-the-brink-of-suspension-in-quebec/
Cases are declining! But don’t worry! The White house has a solution to make them go up again!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/white-house-plans-buy-another-1-billion-covid-rapid-tests-despite-decline-us-cases
We need to destroy Australia before it infects us.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/australians-being-mandated-provide-police-geo-trackable-selfies-prove-theyre-quarantining
Bu… but… the fack-checkas said Moderna’s vexxine was perfectly safe…! They use official sources! I don’t understand…!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/sweden-denmark-restrict-use-moderna-jab-over-risk-heart-inflammation-other-side-effects
Sweden still winning!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/without-lockdowns-sweden-had-fewer-excess-deaths-most-europe
It’s up to you, NY, NY!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/large-new-york-health-care-system-fires-1400-unvaccinated-workers
Here’s Joy: “Like an oil change! It’s the same kind of reason why babies eyes turn from blue/violet to boring colours after a time. Toxins deposited in the iris.”
Anyway, it was easy to get Joy to gas on about babies and reveal that she had no understanding of genetics. It was also very interesting that swordfishtrombone was backing her.
No worries Dennis
It wasn’t hypothetical though, he presented it as something which actually happened so I took Briggs at his word.
Read as far as the sentence beginning:
“now about the pressure…”.
The response was only about lady with the undisclosed disorder described as ‘flare ups’ who was so badly afflicted that she ignored advice and received the jab, then went to ask for a remedy and when she didn’t get the right answer, blamed the Dr!
That’s allegorical of a day in the life of …
Baby’s first poo is green,
The iris is coloured by the deposition of pigment behind the eye early in life,
All babies are born with blue/violet eyes, even ethnic babies.
Iron is in the deposits in the iris, contributing to eye colour.
yak’s milk is pink,
albino’s have pink eyes,
albino rabbits have red eyes,
eye colour is determined genetically as the whole world knows but there are physiological mechanisms which take place as a result of those genetic differences.
Odd that you think anybody, pretty much, doesn’t know about eye colour and genetics,
You clearly did not know or appreciate that there is a spectrum of colour and that this is indeed determined by pigmentation of the iris;
You dislike my metaphoric way of describing the process but that’s your problem.
Even if it were a bad metaphor? You’ve got a really strange difficulty accepting that you’re wrong. Also accepting that Swordfish is a real person. ..weird.
Swordfish has made some valuable contributions to discussions and helped me understand some of the philosophy of arguments which are only presented as parody normally. He is also very straight forward and logical, which is helpful. I have ‘argued’ with Swordfish before and it was due to one of those discussions that I went back to check the gospels and discovered audio bible on line. I found that I understand exactly whee his and my understanding of the world part company. It would be a good thing if everybody could be so easy to respond to.
Why are people here so threatened by atheists that they have to go on the personal attack?
That isn’t what Christianity teaches. Not at all
“It wasn’t hypothetical though”
Yeah, I misread it as a hypo at first, that’s why I called it the Allergy Lady case in my second response. 🙂
Joy: “yak’s milk is pink”. No, it is not.
Whistleblowers:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3718628
By the way, don’t know where else to post this question, so this thread seems as good as any:
Does anyone know where to find info about specific genetic markers (including Marker/SNP# or genetic position#) that may confer either immunity or resistance to Covid (or at least severe Covid), or conversely, those genetic markers that may be indicative of susceptibility to severe Covid? Been searching for almost 2 hours, but every article I find discussing the issue merely mentions various genes by general name (things like TYK2, ACE1, ACE2, INFAR2, FOXP4, etc.), then says something like, “Researchers have found that certain variations in this gene, particularly on the third chromosome, may inhibit severe Covid (or, conversely, make one predisposed to more severe Covid), etc…but they don’t identify the actual variations by marker/SNP# or genetic position# that one could then search for in 23&Me or other DNA test results.
I went down this rabbit hole after listening to BAP and Moldbug earlier tonight discussing HIV immunity/resistance conferred by CCR5 Delta 32 mutations on the 3rd chromosome. After researching, apparently about 10-20% of Europeans – particularly NW Euros, esp. Scandinavians – have one mutation, which grants significant resistance, and about 1% have 2 mutations, which basically confers immunity (and the CCR5 mutation works not just on HIV, but also apparently Smallpox and Bubonic Plague – in case those flare up again!; Someone’s probably cooking-up a new Smallpox or Bubonic plague gain-of-function variation as we speak. Call Gates or Fauci for more info. Wonder if it helps resist Covid too?).
Unfortunately, after finding the CCR5 variation marker #s to look for, and despite my 23&Me results being 100% Euro – 92% NW European, incl. 11% Scandinavian – it appears I do not have the Delta 32 variation at all. Pretty bummed. Though I also read that the Delta 32 variation (esp. the homozygous 2-variation version), may also be associated with decreased longevity (not sure how much decreased), so maybe just as well off not having it. 🙂
Dennis. if you have natural immunity (due to previous coronavirus infections), you’re probably in the 80% who don’t get it.
If you’re not sure, you can look up Ivermectin, and the protocols related to it.
Then there is Claritin, etc., in the Spanish Study:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243683
Stock up on preventative measures, just in case, and use them if you have symptoms. But remember that if you are not obese, D3 deficient, zinc deficient, diabetic, or suffering from any other co-morbidities, or are over 85 years old, your chances of surviving a Covid-19 infection are in the 99.9 range. Oh, just to be safe, take some Vitamin C.
That’s not quite what I’m getting at with this question about genetic resistance or immunity. This is at the genetic level, not acquired resistance or immunity from prior infection – just like the HIV (or smallpox or plague) protection conferred by the CCR5 Delta 32 mutation is not something acquired by having had a prior infection with HIV, etc., but an inbuilt resistance or immunity one is simply born with.
You must have missed about 90% of my previous posts if you think I need to be told about robust natural immunity from prior Covid infection, Ivermectin, or various supplements (hell, there were a couple back-and-forths the other day on one thread re. someone’s mention of Fauci’s own Vitamin D regimen where I even mentioned the dosages of the D, C, Zinc, and Quercetin supps I’m taking!).
I’m also well aware of obesity, diabetes, extreme old-age, and other co-morbidities’ connection to greater Covid risk, and the fact that 99.9 without those co-morbidities survive.
Everyone I know has grown tired of my incessant, mantra-like reminders (since this basic fact seems so often to be lost in every Covid discussion – whether about lockdowns, muzzles, distancing, vaccines, testing, vax passports, etc.), from nearly the beginning (since it became clear within about a month that Covid was vastly overblown) that none of the insane response to Covid has been justified for a virus with a 99.98% survival rate!
New fear ploy in the local news is “Almost seven thousand cases of COVID-19 in schools!”
Expanding the story this information is taken from over 1,000 schools, and tracks things since labor day. So we’re talking about an average of about 1 case per week in each school. Keep in mind that these schools also require weekly testing.
I’m prefacing my exemption with the following …
From : http://www.ancientdestructions.com/baalbek-temple-human-sacrifice-worship-baal/
In times of crisis or calamity …, the Carthaginian priests of Baal demanded the flower of their youth. Special ceremonies during extreme crisis saw up to 200 children of the most affluent and powerful families slain and tossed into the burning pyre. During the political crisis of 310 B.C., some 500 were killed. On a moonlit night, the body was placed on the arms of an effigy of Baal made of brass. The Priests lit fires that heated the effigies from its lower parts. The victims were placed on the burning hot outstretched hands. As they were burned alive, they vehemently cried out. The priests beat a drum sounded flutes, lyres, and tambourines. This drowned out the cries of the anguished parents. The father could not hear the voice of his son, and his heart might not be moved.
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Fetal cell lines were used in the development and production of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine, and fetal cell lines were used in the testing of the Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines.
…
I’ll accept the jab when “the children of the most affluent and powerful families” are sacrificed to Baal, not the children of the most vulnerable.
Dennis: ” That’s not quite what I’m getting at with this question about genetic resistance or immunity. This is at the genetic level, not acquired resistance or immunity from prior infection – just like the HIV (or smallpox or plague) protection conferred by the CCR5 Delta 32 mutation is not something acquired by having had a prior infection with HIV, etc., but an inbuilt resistance or immunity one is simply born with.”
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that you didn’t know about robust innate, broad, or natural immunity. Then again, I figured getting early treatment information out there (even though, yeah, 99.98% survival rate) wouldn’t hurt, and might help some vexxed folks, some of whom might get hit harder with re-infection.
With HIV, non-progressors (HIV+ but no subsequent AIDS) were a thing. But whether due to false positive testing or due to their genetic make-up has never been established, so far as I know.
Maybe, someone has looked, and I just don’t know, though.
Stop This NOW
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243826
Kids are at no risk from Covid-19. Actually, anyone under 70 and healthy isn’t.
The only reason I can think of for the push to get kids vexxinated is that “They” know that kids have innate immunity, in addition to acquired and natural immunity, and their precious little virus stops spreading right there. Dead end. No more virus spreading, no more lockdowns, no more mandates.
Of course, there are other reasons, now that I think about it some more. Truly evil ones.
Philemon: Just Google (or DuckDuckGo, I prefer) search “CCR5 Delta 32 mutation HIV.” Definitely a real thing about a percentage of whites (mostly NW Euro – which is why I was bummed not have it!) being inherently genetically resistant (1 mutation ) or virtually immune (2 mutations) to HIV infection (and smallpox and bubonic plague!).
Of course there may also be some who, for various reasons (aside from drug treatments, I mean – and there seem to be some that are much better than AZT now), never progress to full-blown AIDS despite have no CCR5 mutations, so not saying that’s the only thing that would prevent one from going full-blown (and of course, that all assumes HIV in fact causes AIDS – which is a whole ‘nother can-o-worms, as they say!). Almost no blacks have the mutation (and very few Asians either), which may help explain why they seem to have more problems with HIV, and not only in actual Africa – Nearly every HIV drug add I see these days seems to feature mostly black patients/actors.
Personally, I tend to think HIV was also overblown (and I’m sure you know who was behind that propaganda effort and the AZT debacle, as well! Our good friend Fraudci), and full-blown AIDS – whether there is a causal link to HIV or not – largely a result of lifestyle rather than mere presence of HIV itself. Funny, you rarely hear much about HIV/AIDS these days (even in Africa), though it was portrayed in the ‘80s and ‘90s as a constant threat and global “crisis” that would leave countless millions dead, and Africa especially utterly decimated (some decimation – its population has continued to explode to record levels year after year). It seems to have just mostly fallen by the wayside, even in Africa, where it certainly isn’t because they suddenly started getting excellent medical care and access to expensive new retroviral drugs like those you see in American TV ads. I can’t remember the last time I heard of someone dying of HIV/AIDS (even Magic Johnson and Greg Louganis are still around despite having had it for nearly 30 years; ditto blog pioneer Andrew Sullivan).
I didn’t know until yesterday that such exact gene and variation data was available on 23&Me to search for such mutations, and remembered reading about alleged genetic variations that may be linked to Covid, but can’t find anything identifying precise mutations by SNP# so it can be searched DNA results.
Some countries are halting the vaxes for under 30s because of myocarditis risk. Absolutely criminal that US govt, media, and Big Pharma are still colliding to push for ever younger age groups to be approved for the jabs. Frankly, they should have been pulled for EVERYONE, and never approved even under EUAs in the first place.
Matt Tabibi has a good article today called “The Cult of the Vaccine Neurotic,” (https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-cult-of-the-vaccine-neurotic) about how media now are even attacking the new Merck pill recently announced – even if it actually works (and it probably does quite well, because it’s basically “Merckvermectin”) – because it may lessen jab uptake.
The jabs are the chief sacrament of their new neo-Molochian cult. Only instead of throwing kids on pyres to appease Moloch, they inject them with a deadly drug cocktail (Reminds me of that Gates video from a few years back where his face lit up with a maniacal grin as he talked about vaccinating Third World kids with one of his other cocktails, mimed a vax jab, and said, “You just take it and shoot it right in there”)
Dennis: HIV in Africa was a complete result of “testing” in order to push expensive drugs. They were testing in pregnancy and prenatal clinics, anything to get the test results higher. And push African governments to spend a bunch of money on expensive drugs.
No, the new Merck pill is not Ivermectin. It is another failed drug that they are hoping to get EUA on. Because money. No liability. Mutagenic, oh, yeah. Thalidomide much.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243781
Hmm..interesting. Yeah, I’d heard what Merck was working on was basically a slight tweak of Ivermectin (of which they were the original manufacturer when it was under patent; just enough of a tweak to enable them to patent it as “new,” but more or less something that works similarly to Ivermectin).
Crazy that Merck has been denigrating its own drug in its statements on Ivermectin (it was even co-discovered by a Merck researcher, who eventually shared a Novel a prize for it), and that the politicians, media, and Big Pharma together have mounted a campaign to tarnish the reputation of one of the safest, and most effective drugs ever invented. It’s just “horse paste,” etc. Evil. Evil and criminal.
“…And push African governments to spend a bunch of money on expensive drugs.”
Wasn’t it other countries’ taxpayers that picked-up most of the tab for those drugs through their governments’ various foreign aid and relief programs (especially white governments still being guilt-tripped about colonialism) – often funneled through corrupt NGOS, where I’m sure a lot of the money disappeared before its intended use?
“And push African governments to spend a bunch of money on expensive drugs.” Just to be clear, it was UN/WHO/US money with strings attached. So, instead of getting cost-effective medicines to treat known illnesses, they were forced to waste lots of money on AZT.
Ah, good old AZT – another Fauci achievement!
It’s amazing how much Covid and the rushed Covid vax rollout mirrors his role in the AIDS scare (few now recall how he helped fan the flames of AIDS panic c.’83-‘84 by promoting the idea of it spreading via general non-sexual close household contact), and his promotion of the highly toxic and deadly AZT (fastest approval in FDA history at that time, despite little testing, unknown long-term side effects, etc. – ring a bell?) to benefit Burroughs-Wellcome (no doubt he had personal financial stake and conflicts-of-interest with his govt position then too) at the expense of other promising treatments (under-explored and underfunded due to Fauci helping push all funding and promotional efforts toward AZT).
Plenty about Fauci and AZT available, particularly the famous 1989 Spin article by Celia Farber that really broke the story. Here’s a good summary article on it all, with links to others (incl. Spin): https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/kim-iversen-fauci-aids-epidemic-covid-vaccines-profits/
What’s especially curious is that if you look-up the Wikipedia article on AZT, none of this controversy over its use – its rushed approval, disastrous side-effects leading to deaths of tens of thousands, Fauci’s role, the Spin article, etc. – is mentioned. The only vaguely controversial thing mentioned is the court case over the patent. Otherwise it reads as if AZT is just a rather ordinary drug, generally “safe and effective” (to borrow a phrase), and basically uncontroversial. Unreal. I wonder if the article has been sanitized recently to remove any mention or criticism of Fauci as part of the media’s burnishing of his image and elevation to secular sainthood?
Dennis,
The chance of getting myocarditis after the vaccine is about 0.0002%, or about 2 in a million. It hasn’t even been established that there is any causal link between the two. Myocarditis isn’t even that unusual – my brother-in-law had it about ten years ago. If some countries have stopped those under 30 being vaccinated, it is only out of an excess of caution. Nothing “criminal” here. You’re getting hysterical over nothing as usual.
The push for ever younger age groups to be subjected to these dangerous and experimental jabs, for a virus which poses virtually no risk to them, in order to serve and protect and Big Pharma cabal, is indeed criminal.Evil and criminal.
In fact the whole Covid scamdemic/plandemic and rushed experimental jab push altogether, for all ages, has been an entirely criminal enterprise from the get go, starting with the GoF research that created it (funded by Fraudci).
No exaggeration, just plain Truth.
And even if your number were true (I don’t believe it is – greatly underestimating the risk – but I’ll humor you for this example), that’s 2 too many per million (and right now there is a relatively small sample size – the problem will get worse as they jab more and more young) for a jab they don’t need, since .0002% is also approximately the death risk from Covid for people under 18.
Many factors, both internal to the person and external, play into whether a particular individual gets Covid, gets seriously ill, dies, etc…some may be preventable, some just the “luck of the draw” so to speak (just as is the case for ordinary flu and many other common illnesses and diseases), but every single side effect caused by these jabs was preventable, and every side effect is too many for an experimental jab that confers little to no benefit across all age groups, but is especially needless in the young.
Whatever happened to “first do no harm”? (Went out the window long ago, like most medical ethics once Big Pharma started calling all the shots – see the timely Yoho article Briggs posted today). We still don’t know what the long term side-effect of these mRNA jabs will be, never mind the short/medium terms risks we do already know of, including myocarditis and others. For people to whom they confer no benefit (which is basically everyone, but especially the young), the jabs ARE the harm.
Iceland just put a hold on Moderna vax (should be Pfizer too, since they have basically same risk profile) for all, not just under 30s, because of myocarditis and pericarditis risk…but yeah, let’s pretend the risk is miniscule (and that jab-induced heart problems are no big deal (“What’s a little myocarditis compared to the almost non-existent risk of dying from Covid if you’re under 30, heh? Just take your jab and shut up peasant!”)
In other Iceland news, here’s anther whopper of a mainstream news headline: “Iceland’s rising Covid-19 cases demonstrate vaccine efficacy” (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/icelands-rising-covid-19-cases-demonstrate-vaccine-efficacy/ar-AAN4LLI).
Got that, rubes? Rising “cases” mean the jabs are working! This media idiocy and propaganda would almost be funny if it weren’t so sickening and dangerous, and yes, downright criminal, Swordy.
Pericarditis or myocarditis:
Pericarditis inflammation of the peripheral layer which surrounds the hear t.
Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle.
Inflammatory processes can be triggered due to infection (bacterial, viral, fungal, or larger, higher order invertebrate parasites ) OR due to other pathophysiology of tissue as a result of other stressors both physical, psychological or autoimmune, to name just a few.
Individuals with covid, particularly children, have been diagnosed with acute pericarditis and there have been fatalities, particularly at earlier stages when the syndrome was being identified in pedantic departments. The syndrome is not novel, see the above list for causes.
However it is not yet determined whether patients who developed pericarditis which is currently being attributed (for safety sake) to the vaccine, would in fact have developed the syndrome given an acute infection with the virus itself. The latter is highly likely in my opinion but time is going to reveal what’s actually going on.
The condition is a progression for flu.
Check “Rheumatic fever” as well.
A broader understanding of the clinical context here is going to help people better to understand what’s taking place.
Being shocked and horrified by claims which are unsubstantiated but emotive is causing unnecessary complexity in an already complex situation.
Iceland is also famous for not just bucking the trend and having all sorts of statistics that have more to do with their small population, as well as their recent tendency to be anti anything British.
Probably because they still owe us money that they’re not going to pay us back!
The pharmaceutical wars are going to play on whatever anybody says or does, going forward. Regarding vaccines, people do have a choice, even those pretending they do not. Problem is, they don’t wan tothers to have that choice!
“Freedom for me but not for others”. Isn’t freedom
Dennis,
COVID-19 conspiracy theory bingo:
Scamdemic. Tick.
Plandemic. Tick.
GoF research. Tick
Fraudi. Full house!!!
“Iceland is also famous for…”
They also have Björk, Sigur Rós, and loads of elves and tree sprites! And lots of boozers (perhaps related to the unusually high number of elf and tree sprite sightings in Iceland!).
Must visit someday: float in Blue Lagoon, looking at Northern Lights, with glass of vodka, and Sigur Rós in background. 🙂
Ah, now we’ve added “Covid Conspiracy Theory” to “Covid Denialism” in other thread.
“Conspiracy theory” is just the label the Regime puts on any information or explanation it doesn’t like (see also “misinformation” and “disinformation”) which contradicts the official Narrative.
That all you got?
Also that list of more Four-of-a-Kind than Full House. 🙂
“…list is more Four-of-a-Kind…” that should read
Iceland’s elves are rubbish!
Ours knock them into a cocked hat.
Ask Michael 2 about Iceland, I ought to mind my P’s an Q’s anything you want to know about Iceland, ask him.
People probably agree about how the conspiracy theory rhetoric has been used by the left or powerful media in America but conspiracy theorising all the live long day is just a tedious pastime.
See China, rather than shooting your own clan. People are on the same side more than they recognise.
Swordfish and Dennis agree about Trump, there’s just a difference in milage
Joy may be saying something original and important here, but I can’t quite understand it. Perhaps there are Joy scholars who are up to to task of providing a critical commentary on what she is saying.
“Iceland’s elves are rubbish!”
I’m gonna sic drunk Björk and the Landvættir on you!
Landvættirs? On vodka?
We have loads, LEGUES of little people. I was an elf in brownies so they’d have to watch it, especially if they’ve been on the vodka.
Was a sprite, but never a fairy.
We used to carry the flag for church parades in the church next door along with he scouts and the cubs but in the reckoning of some, that would be considered heresy. Catholics had brownies too, dunno what they did with their flags on Sundays Our closest friends as a family were Catholic and we never impinged on each other as children
Always thought Candle Candle which is near enough to Bjork as makes no odds was very ‘middle earth.’ Only know one track by her…scary hair
Voyage into Vinland was one of my favourites from the ones they used to sing. Recall the tune, can’t find it. Sweet Sweet Rabbinate was another
https://youtu.be/YedZpgy3F-M
I don’t know if the Landvættirs who protect Iceland drink vodka, but years ago Björk claimed she could drink Shane MacGowan under the table. That’s pretty hardcore.
Brownies…sounds like the youth wing of the Brownshirts! Lol.
Of, course, the Brits were more into Blackshirts! (I kid, but actually I have great admiration for Oswald Mosley. He and Enoch Powell were perhaps the two finest British statesmen of the 20th C., though Powell went a bit off the rails in his later years when he joined a hardcore NI Unionist party).
Didn’t know there were Catholic and Protestant versions of Brownies, though. I thought they were just the younger part of Girl Scouts. We had Boy and Girl Scout troops at my elementary school, but they weren’t Catholic orgs as such. And of, course, scouting everywhere has been corrupted by woke-ism and is ruined now. In fact, I thought I read the Boy Scouts of America went bankrupt (maybe Girl Scouts too). Good – serves them right for going woke. I was never into scouting anyway (though I was briefly in Cub Scouts in second grade – my mom was our Den Mother, lol).
Sweden’s Ice hotel was magical,
Champagne while watching one northern lighT ! at the European space station was good.
Then there was swimming in the mountain pools in the alps. No drink in involved though, health and safety.
They also had fire exit signs in the ice hotel, that’s the EU for you
Don’t wait to book it, you don’t need a vaccine passport any more I don’t think. They start taking people from about November December so you might be lucky and get your wish to go to a country that isn’t i”n on” the conspiracy after all. You said you wanted to live in Sweden. Dog sledge from the airport, greeted with Swedes singing “love is all around” dressed as Santa claws, from the plane on RED carpet, moose safari, or just go to Canada instead, they do all the same stuff. ..cheaper flight, better food.
“Then there was swimming in the mountain pools in the alps. No drink in involved though, health and safety.” LOL. Bunch of Karins!
And only “one Northern light” too! Is that some EU enviro reg as well? Even dimming the Northern Lights now!
“Don’t wait to book it, you don’t need a vaccine passport any more I don’t think. They start taking people from about November December so you might be lucky and get your wish to go to a country that isn’t i”n on” the conspiracy after all. You said you wanted to live in Sweden…”
I never said I wanted to live in Sweden (not that I recall)! Not that I’d mind as such – lovely country in many ways, as are all the Scandinavian countries, gorgeous women, etc. – though they are a shell of themselves compared to decades ago due to mass immigration and the continued Progressive March Through the Institutions ravaging their culture, as it has everywhere.
If I could visit the Sweden of Ingmar Bergman c. 1955-1965, that’d be sweet. Plus I recently found out through 23&Me that I’m 10.7% Scandinavian (apparently they are unable to be more specific about which country), so it’d be like returning to the roots I never knew I had! Lol.
As for visiting Iceland, or anywhere, soon…alas, unless I can travel by some homemade Viking-ship-like contraption, flying appears to be out for the foreseeable future, perhaps forever. I will not fly anywhere for any reason so long as they are still doing the face muzzle nonsense, even if there is no “vaccine passport” required for boarding or at at the ports of entry/exit.
The Brownie packs were not one denomination, thinking about it, just that (my) Catholic neighbour and other family friends belonged to a different pack, so assumed the reason was to do with the denomination. One best friends was Jewish, she was in our pack, so it wasn’t exclusive. We did have a couple of Hindu’s. The Girl Guides / scouts are in India, too.
We used to attend Irish dancing with our Catholic friends at the local Catholic church hall which was also my nursery. Just terrifying memories…
I think the ‘elf and safety police might have tampered with the rules in the Pyrenees, (not Alps).
The bigger the pool the less they trust the inmates
Hmm I think that you did Dennis. Something like,
“it must be so great to live in a country that…and listed Norway and I believe Sweden too? I think you’re fine where you are. Maybe you spend too much time in cities. They are not necessarily representative of a nation’s heart and soul.
Re your vision of Sweden ‘as it was’ is a bit like your vision of many countries ‘as they were’.
Much of it is rose tinted and never existed. (Forgetting the politics) the buildings are all still there.
The left leaning globalists are trying to steel a march on every country in turn but they didn’t reckon on the Europeans to want their own country’s identity. Britain isn’t the only country that wanted out, just the first to win the fight. There’s more to come.
It’s the culture that’s altered and that hasn’t happened everywhere. It isn’t until it impinges on enough of the right people that efforts are made to resist. Inertia takes time to overcome.
flying appears to be out for the foreseeable future, perhaps forever. I will not fly anywhere for any reason so long as they are still doing the face muzzle nonsense, even if there is no “vaccine passport” required for boarding or at at the ports of entry/exit.
No, don’t set yourself those rules. It’s going to be over quicker than you think, anyway. Once countries realise they won’t get the tourism they need, they’ll lift the restrictions. Some countries will lead, others will follow. The US may have to ‘follow’, we’ll see. The industry is much of a piece though.
Transatlantic cruise to the Fiords, problem solved.
That 10%, is it the same percentage that we all share with bananas?
Mine would be French and Celtic/Anglo-Saxon. Never thought to have it tested
Well, the restrictions in question are not about the countries’ tourism rules or “vaccine passports,” but inane US FTA rules for flying. People thought the often absurd Security Theatre after 9/11 was supposed to be temporary too, but – as seems to be the way with bureaucracies run by idiots – 20 years on the Security Theatre is still around, and flying, which I used to enjoy in the ‘80s and ‘90s, has long been a nightmare (though some of that less to do with security theatre as such, and more to do with airlines doing things like shrinking seat-space, charging extra for anything they can think of, and generally acting as inhospitable as possible to maximize profit while treating their customers like cattle). So, I would not be one bit surprised if the the absurd Covid Theatre rules – for flying and many other things – are also still with us for decades to come, long after people have forgotten why the original “temporary emergency” rules were put there in the first place.
The 10% must have been some Viking berserker who ravished one of my female ancestors during some invasion or other. I don’t believe she was a banana. Overall 23&Me seems pretty accurate, since it was mostly in line with my known family history – 72% “echt Deutsch” – though there were a few surprises I wouldn’t have guessed – the 10.7% Scandinavian, and also apparently 5.4% Italian, and 3.4% Ashkenazi. The remainder English – who, this obviously not in 23&Me report, were Recusants who fled to Maryland in the wake of the persecutions that followed the Inglorious Revolution of the Dutch Usurper William and his treacherous & patricidal wife! (I thought it’d be higher – closer to 20-25% or so – since my last name is English, but I guess that part of my ancestry has just been watered-down through marriage with others – mostly Germans – over the years, while the name remained through the male line).
Come to think of it, like my Recusant English ancestors of the late 17th C., most of my German ancestors in the 19th were also fleeing anti-Catholic persecutions that were part of Bismarck’s Kulturkampf…this must be where I get my instinctive distrust of governments and Refusnik streak. 🙂
Just for fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVcl0Iw3fs8
Oh, yeah! Barracuda!
Dennis,
Mosley, Jesus, Trump. Spot the odd one out.
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Yes, because I admire Mosley as an historical figure, and the work he did trying to save Britain from the disastrous course it had taken in the 20thC, clearly that means I put him on the same level as Jesus.
Ditto Trump, I guess. Though he did some good things, and largely meant well while being ultimately temperamentally and intellectually unsuited for the real effort needed to “drain the swamp,” and many other things he claimed he would do, anyone who’s ever seen what I’ve written about the great many failures of the Trump admin (for future historians, I believe his greatest failure and most disastrous policies ultimately will be Operation Warp Speed to push these calamitous vaccines, and his general falling in line with the COVID Narrative and failure to fire scum like Fauci and Brix) knows my support for Trump was highly qualified (esp. since the Clinton alternative would have been far worse, as the Biden alternative is already proving to be). But yes, other than that, he’s pretty much just like Jesus too!
Dennis,
You mean, Oswald Mosley the fascist and Holocaust denier who had Hitler as a guest at his wedding? You sure can pick ’em.
I mean the Oswald Mosley who advocated a negotiated peace and who tried to keep Britain out of yet another ruinous continental war against its German “cousins,” so-to-speak (the British royal family is really German, after all – though during the jingoistic madness of the previous war two decades earlier, they adopted the fake name “Windsor” to hide that fact and sound more English), which he knew would only end by undermining Britain and the Empire to the benefit of Stalin and Bolshevism (and the USA as well, of course).
Dennis,
So you did mean Oswald Mosley the fascist and Holcaust denier who had Hitler as a guest at his wedding.
Dennis, was going to recall coincidence yesterday of an ice cream man boasting 25% English, 75% Italian! Must be a Latin thing preoccupation.
Moseley?
Just asked someone who was alive during the era of which you speak.
After he finished clearing his exasperation, he said,
“what about ‘im..he was an antisemitic of the first order!”
“What’s your response to that kind of thing?”
Well… I’m not solid on it…but it’s Rollocks!”
(continues filling the dishwasher)
Enoch Powell isn’t in the same category as Moseley.
Re the name of the Royal family, it’s not a secret or even relevant and is overplayed, generally by jealous anti monarchists from the left!, usually. The Royal families of Europe have traditionally married other Royalty. Hence Henry’s lack of choice!
The king was asked directly by Churchill if he wanted the Germans to be marching down the Mall.
He gave his response and so Churchill won the full support of the king.
“German” was synonymous with “Nazi”
Nobody’s perfect, but being English is close enough
8.5% English, barely had a mention
The German part’s probably Saxon, anyway
Apparently I’m (all) English with a tad of recent Huguenots and Irish on my Mum’s side
but really Lancastrian
So the protestant side has given me my Christianity faith, such as it is considered amongst the inquisitors.
My Father’s side is Catholic and he’s an atheist.
It’s very American to wonder where you came from. They should just get better history books.
“Apparently I’m…really Lancastrian”
Ah, so you’re a descendant of that other usurper and regicide, Bolingbroke, who overthrew and murdered the rightful King, Richard II? 🙂
“8.5% English, barely had a mention.” Barely? I said I was surprised it wasn’t higher, and went on about fam history for several lines!
“The German part’s probably Saxon, anyway.”
Indeed – Great-great grandparents on mother’s side from Lower Saxony and North Rhine-Westphalia (which 23&Me did indeed identify as most likely regions of origin in Germany). Most great-grandparents on father’s side also from Germany, but not sure where exactly (perhaps Bavaria or Hesse, which were 3rd and 4th on the 23&Me list of likely regions of origin). Funny they could break that down more narrowly, but others just general categories like “Scandinavian,” “Italian,” etc. without clarify country or region. Guess it just depends how much and how specific the genes in question.
“It’s very American to wonder where you came from.”
Yes, because America is still, historically speaking, a young country, and one built on abstract Enlightenment principles, rather than arising out of the blood and soil and history from time immemorial…so the real roots are elsewhere. There’s a reason 23& Me result says “100% European” and not “100% American.”
“Re the name of the Royal family, it’s not a secret or even relevant and is overplayed…The Royal families of Europe have traditionally married other Royalty…”
Yes, but what’s relevant is why they felt compelled to change it…the apotheosis of the toxic and absurd jingoism that grew throughout the 19th C and ended in the hecatombs of WWI. As for marriage, indeed Royalty generally married only other Royalty, and nations were linked by transnational ties among their Royal families…though the “Windsors” now, in another sop to insular nationalism (though the Queen kept up old tradition by marrying a foreign Prince) generally tend to marry commoners (or lower aristocracy…which has mostly not worked out well (though Kate seems like a lovely lady…and everyone but Harry it seems could foresee the train wreck that would result from yet another American divorcée infiltrating the clan. Is he even a Windsor? He looks far more like that red-headed army guy Diana was supposed to have had fling with than he does Charles, his brother, or grandfather Phillip). But it doesn’t matter – for over 3 centuries the British monarch has been merely a puppet of Parliament and rubber stamp for whatever it wants to do. Basically a live-action tourist attraction with no real power. I like monarchs who rule, not merely reign in name only.
“The king was asked directly by Churchill if he wanted the Germans to be marching down the Mall…”
More typical bloviating nonsense from Churchill, fearmongering to scare the King into agreeing a policy he was already hell-bent on following (Not that he really needed the King’s agreement – see above about British monarchs now being mere puppets of Parliament). There would never have been a threat of German troops in Britain if Churchill hadn’t been hell-bent on war in the first place.
Ah, so you’re a descendant of that other usurper and regicide, Bolingbroke, who overthrew and murdered the rightful King, Richard II? ?
You think Bolingbroke was that busy?
Anyway, I wasn’t there at the time so I don’t know anything about it, can’t blame me!
I’m English, Hertfordshire and Worcester, born in Essex, don’t need to wonder about roots. The names and places commonly have reference to ancient days and everywhere is steeped in history, all over the country, as far back as the dark age. That’s when our nation’s history began.
The kind of history learned by the Americans (in my experience), is of the diluted variety, handed down by goodness knows which interested parties. Recently, we’ve also had infiltrating Americans (females, usually) working in OUR universities and museums telling us how it all went down. Telling the BBC programme maker what they want to be said and so on.
That’s all going to change, by policy.
What you say about royal marriage didn’t need saying of course. However you’re not correct about the reasons why our monarchs take the role they do. It’s not an accident.
As for Churchill and the king, the depiction has been accurate in every account both contemporary and recent. Don’t forget there are people alive today who lived through it. They don’t need to hear from pip squeaks who tell them how it was. Just as people writing in the future about the Brexit debacle, won’t know more than those of use who lived it. BUT you can expect to read a whole lot of lies though.
“You think Bolingbroke was that busy?”
I reckon he was a pretty busy guy, yes. You were the one who self-identified as a Lancastrian. Or maybe you just prefer red roses to white. 🙂
“The kind of history learned by the Americans (in my experience), is of the diluted variety.”
Here’s the kind of history most American’s learn these days: “Slavery…something something…racism…blah blah…colonialism…something something…whitey and Christians bad…oppression…something blah…slavery again…patriarchy…indigenous something…more slavery…homophobia-transphobia…the end.” That about sums it up.
Americans. Stupid superfluous apostrophe monster trying to make me look bad.
“Those of us who lived it but you can expect to read a whole lot of lies”
“Yes, because America is still, historically speaking, a young country, and one built on abstract Enlightenment principles, rather than arising out of the blood and soil and history from time immemorial…so the real roots are elsewhere. There’s a reason 23& Me result says “100% European” and not “100% American.”
America is too big to be a country. It is not immune to human nature.
But I wish you all the best! Looking forward to Trump II
Or President Carlson from Fox
The politician with the eye patch would be a great president
There must be hundreds of fabulous choices for Republicans
I like your idea of a king, too but it’s when you get a bad one!
When Britain decides whether or not to grant you your independence, no doubt you’ll get a chance to rejoin the commonwealth, like South Africa!
I do believe this discussion is off topic and it’s not allowed without the Emperor’s permission. Talking of tyrants
Stop This NOW: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243826
“VAERS is known to materially under-report adverse events. We do not know what the multiplication factor for these findings is as a consequence of that.
“Note that in the context of all prior years this basically never happens statistically. The average over the three previous years associated with any vaccination is four.
“Further, an extraordinary level of cardiac adverse events are associated with these jabs. This is not uncommon or ‘rare’ as claimed; there are in fact, as of July 9th, nearly 130,000 such reports for Covid-19 jabs. If we accept the CDC’s numbers for the number of Americans jabbed this puts the rate of cardiac adverse events are right around one in a hundred!
“What’s nasty is that while the myocarditis incidence is skewed heavily toward males under 30 the cardiac incidence is not; it is centered in the 20-70 range, or roughly ‘right up the middle’ for the people in the nation as a whole.
“Indeed, given the known under-reporting in VAERS a 1-in-100 incidence for a category of serious adverse events is extraordinarily significant. There is every reason to believe we may be causing cardiac injury to as many as one in 25 people who get these shots!”
“I reckon he was a pretty busy guy, yes. You were the one who self-identified as a Lancastrian. Or maybe you just prefer red roses to white. ?”
White ones are better but red are more impressive to look at. Recall a true story of an American at a historical site re the war of the roses. He said,
“All that over a bunch of roses?” Maybe he was Irish American ancestry
My Dad who claimed I’m Lancastrian ie from Lancashire’ean lineage
Patchy is not the solution. Both establishment parties are useless, and we can expect nothing and no one good to come from either. We need a Caesar to smash them both and toss the entire Regime in Washington onto the ash-heap of history.
“All that over a bunch of roses?”
A fine product of American public education there!
But, Philemon…Swordman assures us these things are exceedingly rare and exaggerated (and myocarditis isn’t so bad anyway!), and the jabs are totally super duper “safe and effective”! Didn’t you get the memo? Get with the official propaganda program, man! 😉
Dennis: “’All that over a bunch of roses?’
“A fine product of American public education there.” No! She’s from Barcelona, ahem, I mean the UK.
It does not look good for the vexxinated: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243859
Dennis: “But, Philemon…Swordman assures us these things are exceedingly rare and exaggerated (and myocarditis isn’t so bad anyway!), and the jabs are totally super duper ‘safe and effective’! Didn’t you get the memo? Get with the official propaganda program, man! ?”
Well, swordfishtrombone seems to think he is saving people by promoting the vexxines. Even though natural immunity is way better. But I haven’t seen him acknowledge that…
I know Joy is from the UK – but the line above was quoting some American ninny talking about the Wars of the Roses.
“Well, swordfishtrombone seems to think he is saving people by promoting the vexxines. Even though natural immunity is way better. But I haven’t seen him acknowledge that…”
I don’t think he cares whether he’s saving anyone or not – or even truly believes he is – he just likes being seen to be one of the “right-thinking” people spouting the right propaganda phrases, and getting a pat on the head for being a good Regime-compliant doggie.
Dennis: “I know Joy is from the UK.”
Why? Because she told you so? I still think she’s from Barcelona.
Dennis,
When I men toned the King’s choice, I was referring to Henry Viii.
He had problems with his portrait painters and selfies weren’t invented.
Megan’s beyond the pale in almost every way conceivable. Pot luck out of a telephone book would have been better for Harry. Least said.
RE Churchill:
this:
“More typical bloviating nonsense from Churchill, fearmongering to scare the King into agreeing a policy he was already hell-bent on following (Not that he really needed the King’s agreement – see above about British monarchs now being mere puppets of Parliament). There would never have been a threat of German troops in Britain if Churchill hadn’t been hell-bent on war in the first place.”
Is a paragraph which if you trotted it out over here,, would be put down to your left leaning or Europhylic bias!
Which of course is at odds with your views so it’s worth noting and is a point of interest and curiosity to me, how differently and skewed the stories of history and opinions shift and change, grow legs so to speak, with the passage of time.
You’d find it hard to learn of a right wing individual, or an old fashioned Labour voter, who would think that paragraph was reasonable, although of course it’s a counterfactual. “if : then”
That illustrates just one way the enemy can use such information to create trouble.
I can only put it down to tribalism bias (Germany) or Christian denominational bias which leads back to Rome.
“Come to think of it, like my Recusant English ancestors of the late 17th C., most of my German ancestors in the 19th were also fleeing anti-Catholic persecutions that were part of Bismarck’s Kulturkampf…this must be where I get my instinctive distrust of governments and Refusnik streak. :)”
“…anti-Catholic persecutions that were part of Bismarck’s Kulturkampf” …
Immagine how Jacob Rees -Mogg feels. Another great potential prime minister
You must have plenty of comparable politicians of sufficient knowledge and wisdom to play the game how it’s played in America and turn the ship round. It just never seems to happen fast enough in politics.
You don’t need to justify mistrust of government. This one’s the first I’ve “trusted” all my adult life, but “trust” is a strong word, “relief ” “satisfaction”, “renewed hope”, even “delight” are all more accurate.
I bet patch man had the jab.
“I bet patch man had the jab.”
Probably – because, despite some good positions, in the end Patchy’s an establishment cuck (see ex. his support for Lynn Cheney).
I didn’t see he supported Lynn Cheney.
Just heard him in a few interviews at various times and thought he was refreshingly sane and truthful.
Since he’s an ex military man I judged him as a cut above when iti comes to understanding the challenges the world actually faces.
He also has an English sir-name, perhaps Lancashire? Yorkshire? Pennines, anyway
A businessman who knows how to take on the media transmission as Trump began to do. The media is the tool of the enemy. Without them, the globalist agenda is over.
Don’t usually catch the names. You do need someone though who can capture both sides which will put the noses out of both, like Trump did. Like the Brexit party did. Someone who actually captures the main sentiments of the nation, not the fringes, or those with the most money.
Still think Trump’s the medicine the US swamp needs. Not many with thick enough skin, energy and a detailed knowledge of how the levers of influence operate in the US, when it comes to influence, money and power.
I loved seeing Trump Irritate the media. They still can’t find anything else to talk about.
He certainly smoked out the culprits in media and politics around the world.
“Since he’s an ex military man I judged him as a cut above when it comes to understanding the challenges the world actually faces.”
Lol. Quite a funny take on today’s military. Worthless leadership. You think people like Milley and other top brass have demonstrated any real “understanding of the challenges the world actually faces?” Top brass and the culture they are cultivating within the military are as woke as the rest of the establishment Regime, and totally in the pocket of arms manufacturers (euphemistically known as “defense contractors” in the US), who basically exist to bilk taxpayers out of billions, indeed trillions for bloated weapons programs and perpetual war (see the 20 year Afghanistan debacle). Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin may have changed his official title, but he still basically works for Raytheon and other arms manufacturers, not the American people.
“You think people like Milley and other top brass have demonstrated any real “understanding of the challenges the world actually faces?”
No Dennis slow down!
I have listened to the man in question being interviewed and think your depiction of him is wrong but I’m happy enough that you may well know a bit more about the man. Set that aside for a moment.
Re faith in military personnel? When it comes to certain matters, absolutely, especially those who have actually fought and been injured in serving their country. In the absence of any other information. (I’m also of the b belief that boy soldiers who fight for their country should have the vote before unemployed individuals, but that’s another story. )
I also didn’t mean to imply that a man has to be injured to have a valid point, or know anything, in case that also needed saying.
So if you’re asking about the last few decades of foreign policy or the management of the recent withdrawal of your country from a theatre of combat in the manner they did? Then, thinking it follows that (I think) any “top brass” SHOULD be trusted by default? That’s some kind of reframing or false notion you may have. Suspect you don’t think anybody is that naive or facile.
We were talking about military experience and life experience that sets someone up for leadership.
I can speak for our own military.
Consider the point you made about “woke” in the military:
That’s a problem of far greater complexity, stemming from domestic matters and international global influence. It’s not the fault of military personnel themselves.
Some of the best logisticians and engineers work for military.
That’s not the same as saying pick a name out of a hat and they will be fine for the job but at the moment, yo’d be hard pushed to find someone more counterproductive to American interests. Perhaps the only time in history where pulling a name out of a hat might indeed be preferable, as long as that group has a certain background.