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The New UFOs Are Obviously Fake & Gay

You saw the “official” video with those triangles or pyramids in the sky which our new woke military released and identified as unidentified aerial phenomenon, their New & Improved! name for UFOs.

My guess is they don’t call them UFOs anymore to separate themselves from the icky unwoke masses, and in an attempt to make their inept investigations appear more scientific.

The New & Improved! UFOs are obviously fake and gay (I comment only on the new and newish crop of videos), the result of the growing mandatory incompetence planned in the minds of our tarnished brass.

Proof? About those pulsating pyramids, this:

Competence is an enormous driver of disparities, and disparities are officially illegal. So it has to go, replaced by pilots and technicians who have spent so much time in Diversity Training they have never seen a commercial aircraft at night.

It’s not their fault. Instead of learning how to use their equipment, such as focusing camera lenses, sailors learn how to fill out applications to change their sexual designation. This new UFO flap is entirely on the narrow shoulders of our military leaders.

Okay, maybe the “pyramids” are artifacts and the result bad or missing training, but what about all those other recent videos. Surely they can’t be the result of incompetence, too?

Yes they can, and don’t call me Shirley.

When I first saw that “go fast” video a few moons ago, I figured it was either a balloon or a flaw in the camera, since it tracked so smoothly. I didn’t know about the infrared plumes until taking the time to look them up. As could have anybody outside the military, by seeking books on mistaken identification of UFOs. Of which there are dozens upon dozens. All as easy to find as these videos were.

Even easier to find was the video producer’s website, Metabunk. (He’s got lots of neat material, such as why that recent picture of the Bidens and Carters looks so screwy.)

Note carefully the date on these videos: many are from before the woke “news” program 60 Minutes spent a whole segment on these new UFOs, all presented in what they assume is a sober “Gosh, wow, maybe” way.

Those journalists couldn’t be bothered to search for Metabunk’s videos. So it’s not only our military that is incompetent, but our media, too.

Who didn’t know that already? Why, at this late date, does anybody trust anything they say on any subject?

You need more proof the new UFOs are fake and gay? Then how about a word from corrupt ex-Senator Harry Reid, one of many in the ruling class weighing in. He took to the New York Times last Friday to gasp and pant that he once went to a UFO conference where he was “was very impressed with the academics, who spoke of unidentified aerial phenomena in the language of science”. Ah, science. Where would we be without science. “I side with science,” Reid added at the end.

He wants you to know he was proud to have spent your money chasing UFOs:

In 2007, while serving as Senate majority leader, I worked with Senators Ted Stevens, a Republican from Alaska, and Daniel Inouye, a Democrat from Hawaii, to secure $22 million in funding for what would become known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. This clandestine Pentagon operation investigated reports of U.F.O.s and other related phenomena, including U.F.O. encounters involving American military personnel.

So both Republicans and Democrats know how to use flimsy excuses to blow money. Who didn’t know that?

Last week some “journalist” asked Obama about the UFOs. He said, “I’m actually being serious here, is that there are, there’s footage and records of objects in the skies, that we don’t know exactly what they are. We can’t explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern.”

Well, nobody expects much from Obama. Or from Marco Rubio, who said “We don’t know what [the UFO] is, and it isn’t ours.” Supposedly he was briefed by government “experts”, who if they weren’t lying to Rubio for effect, were incompetent.

Disgraced ex-spook John Brennan said “Some of the phenomena we’re going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don’t yet understand and that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes a different form of life.”

He wants to say no, but he’s worried his betters will say yes. Being right or wrong doesn’t enter into it. Which is a prime mark of fake and gay.

His quote was from a long and ponderous New Yorker article, in which, besides the history (Project Bluebook etc.), we meet those who we expect to meet: Michio Kaku, John Podesta, and so on and so forth. All saying what we expect.

To the NYer’s credit, they did track down Mick West, too, the producer of the videos above. Reporter said, “Everything he [West] told me was perfectly persuasive, but even an hour on the phone with him left me feeling vaguely demoralized…He seemed unable to envisage that someone might find solace in the decentering prospect that we are not alone in a universe we ultimately know very little about.”

The desire and the need to believe in what isn’t true for the sake of feelz, which is the defining condition of our culture today, is fake and gay.

Anyway, thank God and His heavenly host, we aren’t alone.

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  1. All we know for sure is that the government is lying, whether or not they have any idea what’s going on.

  2. The videos never were very impressive to begin with. Too blurry.

    The background particularly in the GIMBAL video seems to move and the object is moving with it. The GIMBAL suggests a circular path. Hard to imagine how something far off can track along circle. But then it’s really hard to make out what is being shown.

    What I find odd is that many UFO tales consist of objects with lights. Gotta wonder why they would be lit. It’s as if they want to be seen.

  3. John Pate,

    Yes. If tomorrow ships land and the government welcomes our alien overlords and the media waxes ecstatic you can be assured it is an elaborate psyops

  4. I suspect the public is being primed for some sort of announcement of “contact with alien intelligence”. This “alien intelligence” will actually be human and terrestrial in origin, but TPTB will pretend they’re talking to space aliens and the space aliens have told us they won’t let humanity join “the brotherhood of the cool species” until we stop using fossil fuels, eating meat, owning property, etc.

    In other words they’re going to use these faux aliens as a pretext for more the people to hand more of their lives, liberties and property over to the Globalists.

  5. Zundfolge: “In other words they’re going to use these faux aliens as a pretext for more the people to hand more of their lives, liberties and property over to the Globalists.”

    Never let a fake and gay crisis go to waste.

  6. If the US Navy is unable to correctly identify 737s and the planet Jupiter I’m confident the PLAN and PLAAF will own them when we get down to brass tacks.

  7. Listen guys, they’re real — I saw a UFO just yesterday. Was hiking along a high, rocky ridge when I happened to look up and there it was, huge, dark, and just hovering, as if on hideous wings, motionless, when suddenly it swooped off on an impossible tangent. Then it came back, hovering overhead again, and I had the horrible sensation it was sizing me up for dinner. Creepy. I can’t imagine what it was. But maybe… uh, yeah, it was a turkey vulture. Never mind.

  8. Thanks for this, Briggs. As someone who keeps an open mind about what MIGHT be “out there”, it drives me up the wall when I see videos such as in your post, that have been used as “proof” that UFOs exist.

    I didn’t know about the triangle aperture thing, but I did instantly get the feeling it wasn’t a true UFO simply by the repeating pattern of the flashing lights. Anyone who has ever observed planes flying at night could recognize it.

    Likewise, the sphere “splashing” into the ocean didn’t ring true either, especially by the way it disappeared completely and then popped back into view for a second.

    Fact of the matter is, with today’s technology, it is nigh impossible to present “true” photographic evidence. Simply too much one can produce with various techniques and CGI.

  9. WHY THE ^#/$ ARE ALL THE UFOS DOING HERE AND OUTSIDE?!

    DON’T THESE SO-CALLED INTELLIGENT BEING REALIZE THAT THERE’S A DEADLY PANDEMIC???

    DON’T THEY WATCH THE NEWS???

    HOPEFULLY THE BIDEN GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL VACCINE PROGRAM FOR E.T.? HOW DO WE GET THEM TO QUARANTINE ON THE ISS?

    WE NEED TO SEND MORE MONEY TO FORTIFY SPACE FORCE! PREFERABLY WITH DIVERSE UNARMED SOCIAL WORKERS WHO KNOW SIGN LANGUAGE TO COMMUNICATE AND WELCOME PEOPLE OF E.T. ORIGIN!

    Sorry, is the label ‘E.T.’ racist? I don’t like the word ‘Alien’, it feels terra-supremacist.

  10. Mocheirge,

    Nice but though they were born UFOs they now identify as UAPs. Just say in.

  11. Johnno,

    The pandemic only applies to citizens and not aliens and other border crosses coming here to cash in on the Promised Land. Where have you been?

  12. Also I highly recommend this video. Not specifically ‘UFO’ stuff but in relation to it should be considered with regards to experiences of ‘contact’ and ‘abductions’ and strange overlap with other paranormal stuff from a Biblical perspective.

    Are Aliens Demons? Evidence for a Spiritual Interpretation of Alien Contact – Guy Malone
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGamIzi3K5M

  13. This last year has taught me two things: First, that news anchors will read whatever is placed in front of them. Second, that the bulk of the public will believe them.

    They could do a report on how bigfoot might exist tomorrow, using only the blurriest of videos in a genre of already blurry videos, and most of the public will say “huh, I guess there really could be a bigfoot.”

  14. Rudolph

    I noticed there’s already a “click-bait” item on Big Foot

    I didn’t take the bait

  15. Clearly the US govt and media can’t be trusted, and one has to ask – why now? What are they trying to achieve by pushing this obviously phony UFO narrative at this juncture?

    Initially I assumed it was just another way to boost Pentagon pleas for even more spending on various pet projects and weapons programs to meet this newly claimed “threat to national security.” But I fear it’s probably part of an even more nefarious plan than a standard fiscal boondoggle and taxpayer money-wasting (more along the lines of what Zundfolge said above).

    Bizarre line from that New Yorker article, but typical of the worldview of their ilk, “He seemed unable to envisage that someone might find solace in the de-centering prospect that we are not alone in a universe we ultimately know very little about.” It really annoys some people to no end to think that humans and Earth might in fact be special, that we might in fact be alone in the universe – and “de-centering” Mankind has been at the core of the modernist project for several hundred years now. But I think Justine from Lars von Trier’s “Melancholia” had it right: “Life exists only on earth…and not for long.”

  16. ABS: A propos your link above, Phil has vaulted to the top as leader of White Boy Summer. Gonna be tough to catch! History will record his win as the official start to WBS ’21. 🙂

  17. If we can show that 99.9(…)99% of all cases in which someone sees one or more “alien” objects zipping around our skies are susceptible to simpler explanations we still have shown nothing about the remaining cases. There is no proof by induction here – “not an alien, not an alien, not an alien, therefore no aliens” – doesn’t work.

    (cf:
    1 is sort of prime, 3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime, 9 is prime to a democrat, observer bias otherwise, 11 is prime… so all odd numbers are prime.)

  18. Excellent post. Painfully funny. The morons are stampeding again. I’d write more but I have to attend Big Foot’s wedding to Elvis aboard the Mother Ship, with Bat Boy administering. Beam me up SCOTUS.

  19. I’ve been looking at metadebunk’s GIMBAL videos. He only explains that image COULD be a jet exhaust and that the rotation can be explained by how the IR camera derolls the horizon. His attempt doesn’t look the same but does show the angular change.

    It doesn’t explain the apparent circular chase or why the pilot didn’t recognize another aircraft. Unless there is super magnification it wan’t too far off maybe 2 nm max based on size. Keep in mind that a large airliner (at least twice the size of a fighter) looks like a small dot at 5 nm while at 1 nm is about the size of the moon. If it was another fighter, whose was it; where did it come from; and why didn’t the pilot(s?) know about it even after the fact?

    He does show how parallax could explain apparent circular motion but to do so he had to walk around the object. The jet doesn’t look like it’s circling the object but chasing it. Why didn’t the pilot move in closer if he was circling it? When intercepting they approach within a couple of hundred feet and don’t stand off 1-2 nm.

    There are more than these fighter jet videos though and not all of them are IR. According to Tucker these things are being seen on the order on 1 per day stretching back years.

    FWIW: Here is the CIA UFO Collection obtained via FOIA with entries dating back to the 50’s.
    https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/ufos-the-central-intelligence-agency-cia-collection/

  20. In case there was any doubt a government would use UFO’s as a psy-op
    here’s a stab from the past Russian entrant using the ever popular ‘Men in Black’
    format that’s so ham fisted it’s funny. And while Zundfolge’s Green New Deal Alien Reset op
    is a definite possibility, massive funding increases for our newest multi-billion dollar
    government un-employment program, ‘Space Force’, is also on the table. Un-employment
    in terms of the real productive economy that is.

    Russian Prime Minister Talks of Aliens Living Among Us
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvVzXzzJZk

    The Real Men In Black Russian UFO Documentary
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6zBrpbVBQ

  21. I don’t think anything is dumb enough to visit us. We are not interesting.

  22. @DAV

    Rather than identify as UAPs, it sounds like they unidentify as APs!

  23. Tucker Carlson is quite incompetent too, and lazy, as he pushed this UFO crap all last week and has done so , it seems, at just the same time the fraudulent 2020 election cover up is seriously challenged.

    Is this his way of deflecting? Or is this showing his contempt for the people who watch him? Or both?

    The biggest story is still the coup that took place on Election Day, and no one will cover it.

  24. This is convincing, but the eyewitness accounts remain. That 60 Minutes piece featured people who saw aircraft doing seemingly impossible things. Is that just more incompetence? Are they in on it? Is EVERYTHING a lie??

  25. The question to ask is not even whether these specific cases were actually aliens or something. There are dozens of more similar cases in the annals of UFOlogy, some with better evidence than these and others with less. These cases don’t make or break the hypothesis either way.

    The real question is to ask why the government and media are focusing on these cases at this moment, as well as why the media is so in sync with the narrative that these might be “genuine” UFOs, when they usually dismiss such things out of hand (except for goofball local interest stories to fill time).

    A question you may want to ask yourself is this: do I find this case more compelling than similar ones, just because it showed up on major news programs?

  26. DAV — I knew they’d knew, and they’d knew we we know they knew. I know you know, too.

  27. Warner: ”Is EVERYTHING a lie??”

    If it’s coming from the lickspittles of the Prince of This World, yes.

  28. @Dav,

    I know how long Fox has been covering this crap, but last week he went 4 straight days talking about it.

    It’s embarrassing, and telling he won’t speculate on the stolen election, but will go off on UFOs.

  29. I don’t think there’s any doubt aliens exist and have visited the planet many times going
    back to pre-history. The army’s of Egyptian statuary in granite, diorite, and, quartzite
    should dispel any notion that we are alone. Statuary we are told dating back to 3000 BC but
    which I suspect is much older. Bear in mind iron was not discovered until about 1200 BC.
    There are millions of tons of virtually impossible stonework in the hardest of stone like
    the Great Pyramid’s interior and the polygonal walls of Machu Picchu, work that would require
    gem set tool points in the hardest steel alloys to create. As has been pointed out why after
    gas-lighting the public on this issue since the 1940’s has the government suddenly decided
    to come clean. Distraction and expansion of budgets are the primary motivators in my book.

  30. Mike,

    I dunno. It’s not embarrassing to me. He’s clearly fascinated by the UFO topic but he appears to present what he thinks are new developments. Outside of last week, he seems to have spent only around 5 min every couple of weeks on it — if that.

    What has happened on the Jan 6 topic since the end of April when a $10B lawsuit was filed against the Capitol Police that Tucker has failed to mention? He frequently mentions the unfairness of the imprisonment of some participants that so far have only been charged with essentially trespassing while BLM and Antifa who have done far worse are set free or treated lightly.

    As for the election itself, nothing will change who is in office. There’s precedent set during the post civil war where a President was selected by Congress after a hotly disputed election. Until the current audits result in changes, there really is not much to say that isn’t confirmation bias.

    Complaints listed here may give you some catharsis but you’ll likely achieve better results emailing to Fox news.

  31. “He seemed unable to envisage that someone might find solace in the decentering prospect that we are not alone in a universe we ultimately know very little about.”

    The hunt for a replacement religion continues apace. Or is this just the hippy desire – some might say the alien desire – to be completely annihilated, and made one with all others in a collective consciousness?

    Either way, I never expected bugmen to latch onto aliens for spiritual reasons, but I suppose I shouldn’t have been surprised. It’s all there in Sagan, Hawking, etc.

  32. Rudolph Harrier,

    What’s far more fascinating is the role reversal with the government claiming the existence of UFOs while members of the public attempt to show otherwise. “Unidentified Flying Objects” and “Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon” remain “Unidentified” even when supposedly “debunked”. Luis Elizondo has implied there are physical artifacts (such as actual pieces) but who knows?

  33. @Warner in fact, yes, *everything is a lie* when it comes to government. If it’s not an outright lie it’s disinformation by omission. Your entire reality is a carefully constructed lie that has been crafted to enslave you by psychopaths who might as well be space aliens or reptiles wearing a human suit for all the commonality they have with actual authentic human beings.

  34. What’s really funny is the expectation that one needs the government’s blessing
    to know fact from fiction. This is implicit in how they kicked off their current narrative
    “We call them UAP’s” and implicitly if you’re still calling them UFO’s you’re a rube.
    This acronym generation creates a phony aura of higher authority that I find despicable.
    It may seem like a small thing but it is calculated venality, an effort to control thought
    and narrative, an appeal to illegitimate authority. If you don’t go out and do your own
    research and need government approval for your belief system you’re probably still
    waiting for those shovel ready jobs. The government doesn’t know anymore about UFO’s
    than you do, their silence and presence is ominous like the Great Pyramid.

  35. There is no need to think too hard about FOX and Tucker’s reasons.

    a) Did it give them a ratings boost and draw in more viewers?

    b) Does FOX get another chance to shill for the Military Industrial Complex they work for?

    c) Does Tucker get to criticize Herr Biden for dropping the ball and the brass for being too woke to deal with the possibility of being outgunned by potential foreign technology?

    Every now and then these stories come up. They’re also useful for pushing some evolutionary fairy tale nonsense while undermining traditional Christian beliefs.

    There is no other life out there save the supernatural – seriously, check out the Guy Malone video I put up there – E.T. seems only interested in specifically targeting one particular religion on Earth and have long been on board each and every nutty environmental issue. Don’t be surprised when a saucer lands and Kodos steps out dressed like Klaus and commits the planet of Xanadu to the goals of the Great Reset as he extends his tentacle for a covid vaccine by Pfizer.

    Also as for all this Great Pyramid stuff, here’s the truth – ancient man was A LOT SMARTER than we’ve been led to believe. Much of ancient history has been warped to suit the BS doctrines of evolution, uniformitarity, anti-catastrophic and the feelings of secular atheists in various fields. If it undermines what the prophet Darwin said and their worldviews of human progress, and most especially if it dares to validate the Bible or paints a more credible image of other ancient claims that were dismissed as mythical made up stories by supposedly unscientific savages, then it’s cut out of the picture.

    They’ve always distorted the past much like they do the present. A complete revision of our world history needs to be undertaken, and it leads to places that scare the Hell out if them – or more accurately – reminds them that Hell does exist, and that God can get very VERY ANGRY…

  36. There is no need to think too hard about FOX and Tucker’s reasons.

    Yes, thinking is hard so why try? ?Supposing intent isn’t much different than supposing extraterrestrial aliens past or present: not much evidence but whole lots of fun.

    In the meantime, what are USOs?
    https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/05/24/out-ufos-in-usos-n392081

    Above link includes a reference to:
    https://thedebrief.org/fast-movers-and-transmedium-vehicles-the-pentagons-uap-task-force/

    I only skimmed it but it does have an interesting clear photo of a triangular object which (assuming it isn’t fake) could be a balloon, however, according to the article:

    https://thedebrief.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/triangle_photo-1024×520.jpg

    The photograph, which is said to have also been taken from inside the cockpit of a military fighter jet … in 2019 by an F/A-18 fighter pilot. Two officials that received the report said the photo was taken after the triangular craft emerged from the ocean and began to ascend straight upwards at a 90-degree angle.

  37. Stop saying the election was stolen. It was corrected. The Democrat’s just proved in the previous election that Hillary was the impossible candidate. They thought that they could put any rube against her and she would win easy. Not so fast… Too many people just could not trust her criminal ways to get her elected by hook or by crook. She could not be trusted so people voted against her not for Trump. Sorry but that is the truth.

    As far as the UFwhatevers until I see little or large creatures walking out of ships I don’t care what is flying in the sky. There is nothing to talk about or debate at all. Why anyone is worrying about things in the sky when nothing is landing or invading our cities is baffling to me.

  38. Update: the photo linked above may be a fake but I don’t know.

    According to the Daily Mail UK, it is an “artist’s recreation”.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9015711/Leaked-photo-Pentagon-UFO-task-force-shows-sliver-cube-hovering-Atlantic.html
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/12/03/22/36423060-9015711-image-a-35_1607032884955.jpg

    If thedebrief.com deleted the attribution shown by the Daily Mail, the deleter must have spent a lot of time and attention to detail as the attribution covered up canopy reflections. More than mediocre skill. Just below the photo at The DeBrief it was claimed this photo was in the report:

    Overwhelmingly, everyone The Debrief spoke with said the most striking feature of the recently released UAPTF intelligence position report was the inclusion of a new and “extremely clear” photograph of an unidentifiable triangular aircraft.

    The Washington Examiner did confirm the details of the 2020 report: 2019 by an F/A-18 fighter pilot, emerging from the ocean, etc.

  39. I personally know two former military radar folks. One, Niara Eisley, who was on a radar team at Tonopah test range. They could NOT track their targets, because they were going so fast the servomotors on the dishes would burn out. She didn’t realize she had ‘missing time’ until I questioned her, back in ’91, about why she couldn’t remember her team’s names, the hotel where they stayed during tests, or even her CO’s name. Bud Hopkins helped her recover that info – and turns out the military is in it MUCH deeper than anybody knows, back engineering and all.

    The other one is ex AF, and the ONLY non-US citizen to have NASA training. He wound up training others in many installations, including posts for foreign governments. He’s seen quite a few ‘fast walkers’, going 3-5,000 mph (and faster) and just disappear off the screen.

    I also knew a member of the ‘crash and dash’ team at Nellis, who confirmed, though not directly, they have ‘exotic craft’ recovery skills. That includes OURS.

    The best (maybe the only one that can be validated?) contactee case I know of is Billy Meier’s – which goes back to the 40’s. I used the same image processer that was used to analyze his photos, so I know its capabilities. They’re convincing to me. But so is one of his contact reports that matches a non UFO experience of my own.

    I tend to agree with Zundfolge. So did Werner von Braun. The ‘official PUBLIC landing’ will be a fake and used for the political agenda the UN has had in place from at least the early 70’s, if not the beginning. And that attitude of a small group toward the rest of us is probably why the REAL watchers don’t interact with us, on the whole. The negative ‘abductions’ are more likely milabs, the very small balance likely being those who mean us harm in every way. But the vast majority is likely our own, and military tech, judging from my own time in DoD related industries, is at least decades ahead of what they let us know about

  40. This Niara Eisley?: “I was abducted by reptile aliens who raped me on the moon every night.” (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/i-abducted-reptile-aliens-who-6624927)

    Raped by reptile aliens on the moon. LOL…yeah…sounds totally credible.

    “Niara Terela Isley, a former radar tracking officer for the US Air Force, recalled the bizarre and shocking incidents under hypnosis.” Sounds like a case of therapy/hypnosis-induced “recovered memory” syndrome. USAF not sending their best, eh?

  41. Hmm…interesting article, Johnno. I’d never heard of Project Blue Beam…but if the government wanted to fake an Alien or 2nd Coming of Jesus appearance, it would seem to me the technology is there to do it better than ever now – with hologram and Deep Fake tech beyond the wildest dreams of anyone from the ’50-’90s.

    All the more reason to be wary of any UFO stories being put out by the US government. I do have to laugh at the idea that Aliens would come from light years away to just…hang around the pacific ocean teasing US Navy ships.

    If nothing else, perhaps Niara Eisley can work with the US military to create some holograms or Deep Fakes of her alien reptile encounters on the dark side of the moon and sell them on OnlyFans. Given the continued ubiquity of the Star Wars franchise, I’m sure there are lots of alien fetishists out there.

  42. What’s the Pentagon up to?
    So we’ve now gone from the Pentagon-is-hiding-UFO-evidence conspiracy to the Pentagon-is-faking-UFOs conspiracy? Wheels within wheels within wheels.

  43. It’s all fun and games until you’re abducted by aliens, and autopsied. You won’t be laughing then.

  44. There is an overwhelming amount of credible ufo phenomenon and furthermore hard evidence dating back to the Pre WW2 era. I suggest you look up Richard Dolan on YouTube. He’s a very sane and extremely rational historian that deals in mostly documented cases by credible witnesses (law enforcement, military, etc)

  45. What amazes me is these aliens with advanced technology to travel light years in minutes and shut down our military hardware from great distances all seem to breakdown or crash and kill themselves when the get to Earth!

  46. Why is it that they can take a picture of a license plate from a camera in space ? But every UFO picture is grainy and out of focus ?

  47. “Likewise, the sphere “splashing” into the ocean didn’t ring true either, especially by the way it disappeared completely and then popped back into view for a second.”

    That moment in that video was the exact instant I began believing this new set of UFO videos were fake. LOL, and “gay”.

  48. Why is it that they can take a picture of a license plate from a camera in space ? But every UFO picture is grainy and out of focus ?

    The license plate from space thing is a bit of a myth. It does however give the idea of what resolution is possible. Hi-def photos are taken from high elliptical orbits of stationary objects allowing long exposure times. They also have very high resolution cameras and merge several photos sometimes taken over periods approaching a day. Taking photos of moving objects tends to blur them. Some (perhaps many) so-called “satellite” images like those found in Google Maps are actually blended aerial photos.

  49. |Disgraced ex-spook John Brennan said “Some of the phenomena we’re going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don’t yet understand and that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes a different form of life.”|

    That’s the standard Brennan dissemble, alright, and why they paid him the big bucks on failing CNN to muse about Trump “colluding with Russia”: “…unexplained…might…something we don’t yet understand that could involve some type of activity that some might say…” While he was testifying, in secret and under oath, of course, that there was no “there” there.

    Elon Musk’s SpaceX has *permission* to fling *up to* 30,000 broadband satellites into space.
    https://www.space.com/spacex-30000-more-starlink-satellites.html

    But why stop there, let’s make it *up to* 42,000 satellites!
    https://www.businessinsider.com/how-elon-musk-42000-starlink-satellites-earth-effects-stars-2020-10

    Companies are starting to sell services to remove space junk. It seems more likely that all this aerial phenomenon is just our own stuff?

    Here’s one article that declares in its headline, in bold caps, “Space Debris Danger to Satellites: Over 129 Million Objects in Orbit Around the Earth”, but it turns out that “space debris” includes anything less than 1 millimeter, even, somewhat disappointingly, “paint chips”. We might think the “129 million objects” was clickbait, but even paint chips, we’re told, are a danger to the satellites, and must be removed:

    https://scitechdaily.com/space-debris-danger-to-satellites-over-129-million-objects-in-orbit-around-the-earth-video/

    “Intelligent Life in Outer Space” is how atheists explain the origins of the universe; it is a dogma without details. When they try to explain details, it’s always problematic, as in Ben Stein’s “Expelled; No Intelligent Life Allowed”, where Richard Dawkins surmises that life first arrived on planet earth from outer space, possibly on the backs of crystals. No explanation of where that alien life, riding roughshod to earth, first originated; but to be consistent, it, too, must have rode in from its own planet (or dimension?) on “the backs of crystals” as well, from someplace else, far, far away.

    Just as young brides were allegedly advised by their mums to “lie back and think of England”, so we too, for much the same reasons, are now encouraged to lie back and think of UFOs.

  50. It seems more likely that all this aerial phenomenon is just our own stuff?

    Doesn’t explain the reported motions. One would expect it to simply fall or burn up.

    paint chips
    Even a grain of sand has a lot of energy at orbital speeds. Not too many s/c (like none) are painted although there are painted logos.

  51. DAV, those videos Briggs posted did a pretty good job of explaining the “reported motions”: at least some of them were easily faked. Besides, do only extraterrestials make shiny objects move in the sky?

    As for paint chips, or “flakes of paint” as they call it in the article, these are reported as space debris, by the ESA, or “European Space Agency”, in order to put “129 Million Objects” on their funding requests, and they are launching the world’s first orbiting vacuum cleaner in 2025, “ClearSpace 1”, which, given its mission, will probably be assigned to the women astronauts, under the guise of diversity and inclusion. We’re not fooled.

  52. Anyone who knows the nature of viral marketing can see there’s not much difference between a “Pentagon-is-hiding-UFO-evidence conspiracy” and a “Pentagon-is-faking-UFOs conspiracy.” The former serves the latter by generating curiosity and a desire to discover that which is forbidden. But given the military does like to experiment with all kinds of aircraft under top-secret conditions including attempts at saucers it stands to reason they’d keep it under wraps and just let the witnesses assume alien spacecraft and tell that version to friends and the media who are then inclined to write them off as crazy.

    There is other actual lights in the sky phenomenon moving in unnatural ways that is explained by plasma science, a credible field studying electro-magnetic phenomenon that bumps heads with THE SCIENCE ™ and makes the concensus sweat ever since politics lead to Edison winning out over Tesla and Immanuel Velikovsky frightened the shit out of them by documenting our ancestor’s witnessing of catastrophic interplanetary events.

    And for the rest, there’s genuine demonic activity with concern to encounters of the 3rd kind and up.

    In either case the article up there does offer the anti-climatic explanation that the simple reason the Pentagon is releasing these videos without much input is merely due to long standing FOIA requests. And if Space Force gets a bump in the budget because of it then all the better to shut up and let stupid people give you their money.

  53. But we should also not discount the possibility of another psy-op about aliens to manipulate and study the effect on the masses ever since the very successful Rock fella funded radio broadcast play of H.G. Wells’s War of the Worlds led to panic.

    https://www.corbettreport.com/how-to-fake-an-alien-invasion-transcript/

    It’d be criminally interesting to see how successfully this could be pulled off on a population that could be lead to believe in and be traumatized by Covid-lockdown and behaviour who also see Ku Klutz Clanners everywhere.

    My guess is that the controllers want to pivot from Covid back to climate control and they’re going to need a new marketing gimmick. Chances are good that we’ll even see Francis I over in Rome toss his collar down like Reverend Lovejoy to welcome our space saviors.

    “Come back Leader! Willie still loves ya!”

  54. Ann,

    those videos Briggs posted did a pretty good job of explaining the “reported motions”

    Not really — particularly the GIMBAL video. See my comments above. The HUD shows the plane in about a 30 degree left bank travelling around 240 Kts. If it were circling the object, the object would be in line with the wings at roughly 9 o’clock because that’s the point the aircraft would be moving around. Instead it is on the nose. This suggests both were moving in a circle with the object moving in a larger circle thus it’s speed would be higher than 240 kts. The “explanation” is that this is an IR image of the exhaust of another, distant plane. If so, whose was it? Why would the Nimitz group have been unaware of it? Why was it travelling in a circle?

    It’s hard to tell from these videos what is going on.

    In the “tic-tac” incident, The USS Princeton (CG-59), part of the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group had been tracking unusual aircraft for two weeks where they would appear at 80,000 feet before descending rapidly toward the sea hovering at 20,000 feet. Hardly what one would expect from falling debris. Pilot David Fravor reported that he saw an object, white and oval, hovering above an ocean disturbance. He estimated that the object was about forty feet long. He and another pilot said in an interview that a total of four people (two pilots and two weapons systems officer in the backseats of two airplanes) witnessed the object for about 5 minutes. He spiraled down to get closer to the object but the object ascended, mirroring the trajectory of his airplane, until the object disappeared. The IR “tic-tac” image was taken by a second later flight group.

    These are the reported motions I meant.

    Not at all sure what paint chips would have to do with any of this. For them to be visible on radar or by sight they would have to be fairly close and travelling together. Toss a handful of confetti off of a tall building and watch what happens. It quickly disperses. Now imagine a handful falling from orbit and hitting the atmosphere. Again, there isn’t much paint on a spacecraft. One of the problems in spacecraft design is internal heat removal. Not my field but I’ve been told the paint interferes with radiating the heat which is the only option available to get rid of it.

  55. not much difference between a “Pentagon-is-hiding-UFO-evidence conspiracy” and a “Pentagon-is-faking-UFOs conspiracy.”

    It’s the role reversal that’s interesting.

    given the military does like to experiment with all kinds of aircraft under top-secret conditions including attempts at saucers it stands to reason they’d keep it under wraps and just let the witnesses assume alien spacecraft and tell that version to friends and the media who are then inclined to write them off as crazy.

    For Area 51 they engaged in the “Pentagon-is-hiding-UFO-evidence conspiracy”. Now you seem to think they’ve done an about face. Does that mean they are now claiming possession of alien technology at Area 51 and other installations.

    There is other actual lights in the sky phenomenon moving in unnatural ways that is explained by plasma science

    Like ball lightning which has never been photographed?
    The problem with “explanations” of this nature is they are little more than conjecture — the “scientific” equivalent of Thor’s Hammer for thunder.

  56. I still stick with my same statement. When one lands and a whatever walks out I’ll be interested. Until then this useless conjecture can be left for the cooks.

  57. Mr. Briggs:
    I thought this piece was satire at first.
    I’m still not sure.
    But I decided you were being serious.
    You obviously ignore all UFO reports, from all pilots — over 10,000 reports since the 1940s.

    Did you realize the US Air Force required pilots to file written reports on UFO sightings from the late 1940s to the late 1960s?

    Approximately 12,600 reports were filed.

    I guess you dismiss all the reports of relatively young military pilots, with excellent vision, from their cockpits … by sitting at your desk and simply claiming they have no idea what they are talking about?

    All the “faux fighters” UFOs spotted by US military pilots in World War II — just optical illusions?

    Thousands of UFO reports from commercial pilots in the past 50 years — all imagined?

    If this piece was serious, you are dismissing many thousands of pilot sightings and radar sighting as imaginary.

    All the pilots are all wrong, and only you, a desk jockey, are right?

    On the subject of unidentified flying objects, you are a fool for dismissing all evidence, making you completely clueless about that subject.

    If you were equally biased on all other subjects, nothing you wrote would be worth reading.
    Richard Greene
    Bingham Farms, Michigan

  58. Why is it this UFO stuff only ever seems to come from the US govt – decades of compilation of alleged sightings, video leaks, etc.? What about the EU, Russia, China, etc? Are we supposed to believe that aliens have come from light years away, and yet when they got here to Earth chose mostly to harass a few Navy ships in the South Pacific, rather than do something drastic that would clearly make their presence known to all the Earth?

    Even if they didn’t do something so drastic on first contact, after decades of alleged sightings what are they waiting for? Why haven’t Kang and Kodos just landed a ship on the South Lawn of the White House by now and announced their inter-galactic takeover?

    Or maybe they have in secret and have mind-and body-melded with the oligarchic class, and David Icke is right about our rulers actually being alien shape-shifting reptilians? Would explain a lot, actually 🙂

  59. Are we supposed to believe that aliens have come from light years away, and yet when they got here to Earth chose mostly to harass a few Navy ships in the South Pacific, rather than do something drastic that would clearly make their presence known to all the Earth?

    You should read the explanation by Ford Prefect in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy 🙂

    Why dwell on aliens? Aliens are only one explanation but other explanations are also wanting. Some things remain mysteries.

  60. “Like ball lightning which has never been photographed?
    The problem with “explanations” of this nature is they are little more than conjecture — the “scientific” equivalent of Thor’s Hammer for thunder.”

    We’ll technically if people are witnessing and recording UFOS of this variety then they are arguably recording ball lightning or Plasmoids. And these are recreatable in a lab as well and photographed therein. See the UFO or Plasmoid link I put above.

    Many UFO sightings by astronauts and pilots are of this variety. That these show up in places like volcanoes and energy installations and plants and even ‘chase’ fighter aircraft due to attraction accords with this idea including the rare occasions where a pilot pursues one of these to the point where they are ‘Shot down’ and destroyed for obviously flying into direct lightning. That these things can move at light speed and at physics defying angles and instantaneous acceleration and deceleration is obviously because they are ‘light.’

    The Plasmoid theory explains nearly all of these accounts. Not absolutely all of the strangest encounters, but nearly all as far as lights in the sky UFOs that are commonly observed. So the testimonies of those who have witnessed and encountered these things are credible. But we are dealing with natural terrestrial electromagnetic activity that like many other things has been largely ignored by THE SCIENCE ™, because it also leads to consideration of other ideas about the cosmos and history that runs counter to everything they convince themselves is ‘settled.’

  61. “For Area 51 they engaged in the “Pentagon-is-hiding-UFO-evidence conspiracy”. Now you seem to think they’ve done an about face. Does that mean they are now claiming possession of alien technology at Area 51 and other installations.”

    I’ve no idea what they are up to other than conjecture. But pulling about-faces is nothing new for government. Everything from how they handle ME wars to covid to BLM rioting to defunding the police to the border will testify to that. They will engage with whatever narrative is most convenient to their purposes in the moment. Consistency be damned.

    We’ll only get an idea of where they are heading with this when their inevitable ‘reports’ turn up and we can discover what ‘solutions’ they are peddling as a result of it. Which I’m guessing will at least always involve more military and big tech spending. Also more diversity and inclusion. We need to practice more diversity and inclusion so that the aliens will be more welcome when they apply for immigration. Maybe these will be the sort that exist by telepathically possessing some human host. We will have to co-exist which this new race of Nephillim. You’ll know they are here because the human host will simply come out of the closet and self identify as one. So remember to use their pronouns. A new normal world is at hand!

  62. We’ll technically if people are witnessing and recording UFOS of this variety then they are arguably recording ball lightning or Plasmoids.

    Or any other explanation. It’s inherent in the “Unidentified” part.

  63. The evidence for UFOs is far stronger than that for Christianity, unless you’ve got actual (as opposed to alleged) eyewitnesses, photos, videos, and radar contacts?

  64. Swordfish Trombone, your comment about God, in the context of UFOs and aliens, inspired me to pull out my (mostly unread, but not for long) copy of Trent Horn’s “Answering Atheism”, because he mentioned aliens in Chapter 3, “Is Atheism True?”

    “Let’s consider another statement: ‘Aliens exist.” Is this statement true or false? Based on my knowledge of the world, I would honestly say ‘I don’t know’. I’ve never seen a UFO nor had the experience of being abducted by aliens, but other people claim to have experienced these things. Even if all of those experiences ere debunked and disproved, it would still be possible that aliens existed somewhere in the universe. Therefore, I must be agnostic when it comes to the question ‘Do aliens exist?’ I cannot give a definite answer.”

    “What is the lesson learned? Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence. Just because there is no evidence for the existence of X, it doesn’t follow that X does not exist.”

    Earlier in the chapter, he discusses other things that exist without [tangible] evidence, such as [the existence of] “mind”, “moral truths” and “abstract objects.”

    But in the case of God, the evidence is everywhere before us, beginning with His natural creation (what are the odds of all conditions necessary to life? Maybe Briggs can run those numbers), the necessity of a first cause, or first mover, and so forth.

    There are other ways of ascertaining the truth of Jesus Christ, including written first-hand eyewitness accounts, the foreshadowing of Christ in the Old Testament, and of course, foxholes of various forms, which as they say, contain few atheists.

    Another reason to think Christianity is true, is because of tangible, proven miracles, the fruits, such as universities, hospital systems, the Magna Carta and the U.S. Constitution, and what are known as “Judeo-Christian” ethics.

    Truth is durable, and the mere fact that Christianity is still around, and still bearing fruit (these days, mostly martyrs) despite over 2,000 years of persecution, is a testament to Truth.

    People who “believe in aliens” but refuse to believe in God, despite all of the foregoing circumstantial and eyewitness evidence, seem to us a little lacking in “intelligent life” themselves, and/or they haven’t given the other side a fair hearing. Try “Theology for Beginners” by Frank Sheed, it’s superb, in depth, and yet not too long.

    If you’re interested in bright lights and heavenly hosts, read the eyewitness accounts in the New Testament.

    Saul, whom God later named Paul, was riding with some friends to Damascus to kill and jail some Christians, and Jesus came down from heaven and kicked him right off his Ass. Jesus appeared as bright light, and blinded Saul for awhile; a few days later, when “something like scales” fell from Saul’s eyes, he became Paul, and the rest is history. May your inner ‘Saul” one day become ‘Paul”, Swordfish Trombone. We’re all praying for each other in that regard.

  65. what are the odds of all conditions necessary to life?
    Pretty good if life evolved to meet those conditions. “Life” as we know it is not necessarily the only possibility. There are known life forms that exist in extreme conditions that would kill most other forms. We don’t know what “life” is so how can we say what its required conditions are?

    foxholes of various forms, which as they say, contain few atheists.
    But then, God helps those who help themselves.

    Jesus Christ, including written first-hand eyewitness accounts
    Proof of Jesus Christ is not proof God exists.

    foreshadowing of Christ in the Old Testament
    Nostradamus “predicted” many things, too, or maybe people shoehorned events to fit his “prophesies”?

    fruits, such as universities, hospital systems, the Magna Carta and the U.S. Constitution, and what are known as “Judeo-Christian” ethics.
    How does acting according to an ideal become evidence for the existence of God?

    The so-called “evidence” for God is little more than confirmation bias by believers who apparently never needed the “evidence” in the first place yet find its rejection surprising. BTW: believing in UFOs does not necessarily translate to believing in aliens. They are just evidence we may not know as much as we think we know.

  66. “Or any other explanation. It’s inherent in the “Unidentified” part.”

    This is a fine statement that doesn’t actually say anything. Do any of these ‘Any other explanations’ account for all the data in a more rational way? Because then you might as well claim that Angler Fish have evolved to fly in our atmosphere whilst phasing in and out of whatever magical dimension all that dark matter is hiding somewhere in and this also suffices as a suitable explanation for UFOs. Not all explanations are equal.

    “The evidence for UFOs is far stronger than that for Christianity, unless you’ve got actual (as opposed to alleged) eyewitnesses, photos, videos, and radar contacts?”

    In an age where photographs, videos, news and even ‘fact checks’ are easily faked, this continues to be of the most shit arguments atheists pathetically try to have recourse to as some kind rhetorical ‘gotcha.’

    God definitely picked the right time in world history to incarnate onto the scene with a mix of oral and written tradition under an influential empire and development of pagan reason and philosophy that could carry on the Gospel and Christianity with overwhelming success as even atheists are loathe to admit. So that’s a pretty damn good track record from whence it came and manages to survive to this day while the atheist lot, when not conveniently borrowing from Christianity in vain attempts to launch counter arguments are tied up in knots about who gets to call themselves a boy or a girl because why not when you believe in a fable where stones turned into little fishies that then turned into people somehow?

    Little wonder then that the U.F.O. phenomena as ‘aliens,’ despite all its irrationality is still maintained to keep the illusion of evolution alive as THE SCIENCE ™ continues to rush headlong into more fanciful multidimensional panspermic ideas about where life comes from because every argument sought on terrestrial grounds has been a failure.

    “We don’t know what “life” is so how can we say what its required conditions are?”

    We do know that it doesn’t spontaneously come from nothing without entirely supernatural means.

    “Proof of Jesus Christ is not proof God exists.”

    It is proof that there was Someone down here Who claimed to be God and did things to the point that many took Him very seriously with all the odds stacked against them.

    “Nostradamus “predicted” many things, too, or maybe people shoehorned events to fit his “prophesies”?”

    As when Moses staff-turned-snake devoured every other magician’s trick, Christian prophecy is still the gold medal standard. Meanwhile all the billions spent by the community of THE SCIENCE ™ still has trouble predicting election results, much less apocalyptic weather conditions within a decade. I too like downplaying the engineering that goes into a state of the art fighter aircraft with the fact that children can fly kites.

    “The so-called “evidence” for God is little more than confirmation bias by believers who apparently never needed the “evidence” in the first place yet find its rejection surprising.”

    Doesn’t explain those of us who rationally came to or returned to a faith we rejected or kept at arms length. If anything, for anyone who truly understands human nature, rejection of the faith is hardly surprising, yet Christianity has managed to thrive against these exact specific odds against it, which existed in its day and are not some novel invention of rejection that suddenly sprang up in the 1900s though it did pick up in the popularity department.

  67. A meandering post by Johnno. Let’s see if I can address the highlights.

    [inherent in the “Unidentified” part] doesn’t actually say anything. Do any of these ‘Any other explanations’ account for all the data in a more rational way?
    There is a big difference between claiming an explanation and postulating one. You seem to be doing the former while simultaneously invoking an equally unexplained phenomenon.

    the U.F.O. phenomena as ‘aliens,’ … is still maintained to keep the illusion of evolution alive
    Perhaps for some. Interesting concept “illusion of evolution”. There is plenty of evidence for evolution. As for life’s beginnings, natural occurrence is more likely than supernatural spontaneous creation starting with the complete absence of evidence for anything supernatural.

    [Proof of Jesus Christ] is proof that there was Someone down here Who claimed to be God
    Perhaps but in any case the key word is “claimed”.

    As when Moses staff-turned-snake devoured every other magician’s trick, Christian prophecy is still the gold medal standard
    Assuming (for the sake of argument) Moses’s staff did turn into a snake, how does it follow that Christian prophecy is the “gold medal standard”?

    THE SCIENCE ™ still has trouble predicting election results …
    Statistics is more like technology than science but its failures do show our limitations.

    … I too like downplaying the engineering that goes into a state of the art fighter aircraft with the fact that children can fly kites
    Ummm ???

    Doesn’t explain those of us who rationally came to or returned to a faith we rejected or kept at arms length.
    What has been called evidence for God in this post and elsewhere is only evidence to those who already believe. You may have found it convincing but many do not. Is it possible that you believed all along but searched for confirmation and think you’ve found it?

  68. Well, I will certainly have to finish reading Briggs’ post on UFOs and read 80 plus comments on it. That will give me something to do for the Memorial Day weekend. And maybe I’ll watch a Sci-Fi film or tv show about aliens to have some extra fun with this – there’s plenty of alien shows being broadcasted these days on local TV thanks to the black vault that came out 🙂 I like it when Briggs, every once in a while, deviates from the typical doomsday news, and writes about something different and a little controversial. Not so sure myself of the view that there are extraterrestrial encounters considering the long distances in space and technology required for the space exploration. But then again, I guess extraterrestrials are not totally out of the realm of possibility and there very might well be extraterrestrials out there considering how big our universe is as such.

  69. “in fact, yes, *everything is a lie* when it comes to government. If it’s not an outright lie it’s disinformation by omission. Your entire reality is a carefully constructed lie that has been crafted to enslave you by psychopaths who might as well be space aliens or reptiles wearing a human suit for all the commonality they have with actual authentic human beings.”

    Yeah, agreed John Pate. Regardless, of what you think of UFOs or UAPs, I think anybody that’s informed can only reach to that conclusion. Especially considering all the voter fraud and other problems that have gone on.

  70. Johno,

    “In an age where photographs, videos, news and even ‘fact checks’ are easily faked, this continues to be of the most shit arguments atheists pathetically try to have recourse to as some kind rhetorical ‘gotcha.’”

    How is this response even an argument? It’s much easier to fake stories written 30+ years after the events they supposedly describe than it is to fake photographs and videos.

    In any case, current Hollywood movies, are unable to convincingly fake reality despite multi-million dollar cgi budgets.

    “God definitely picked the right time in world history to incarnate onto the scene”

    Did he? What about the millions of people who lived prior to this alleged incarnation? I assume they’re all in Hell through no fault of their own.

  71. Ann Cherry (Assisted by Trent Horn),

    “What is the lesson learned? Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence. Just because there is no evidence for the existence of X, it doesn’t follow that X does not exist.”

    Absence of evidence *is* evidence of absence where we would expect to find evidence. If someone claims that Godzilla has gone on the rampage in your town, but you look around and see no destruction, that is evidence that Godzilla wasn’t there. Likewise, if someone claims that at the time of Jesus’s crucifiction, saints resurrected and swarmed into Jerusalem, we would expect to see this momentous event mentioned by historians living at that time, which we don’t.

    “But in the case of God, the evidence is everywhere before us, beginning with His natural creation (what are the odds of all conditions necessary to life? Maybe Briggs can run those numbers), the necessity of a first cause, or first mover, and so forth.”

    If the universe consisted of just the Earth with stars on a crystal dome above it, that would be evidence for God. A vast, ancient universe in which life is a rare accident is evidence for naturalism. As for the necessity of a first cause, I don’t see how it could be necessary for it to be the three-in-one Christian God. In fact, I don’t see why the universe requires a cause at all. If it’s necessary for things to be caused, then God is impossible as he doesn’t have a cause, so the entire argument is self-defeating.

    “There are other ways of ascertaining the truth of Jesus Christ, including written first-hand eyewitness accounts, the foreshadowing of Christ in the Old Testament, and of course, foxholes of various forms, which as they say, contain few atheists.”

    None of the gospels are “first-hand eyewitness” accounts. They don’t even claim to be, and were written decades after Jesus died. The OT prophecies are vague, and the fact that they were known to the authors of the NT means that they could easily make it fit those prophecies. The claim that foxholes contain few atheists is false and irrelevant to the truth of Christianity – I don’t think there are many atheists in Taliban foxholes, but there aren’t many Christians either.

    “Truth is durable, and the mere fact that Christianity is still around, and still bearing fruit (these days, mostly martyrs) despite over 2,000 years of persecution, is a testament to Truth.”

    Hinduism is older, dating from the 15th to 5th century BCE. Does that make it true? As for 2,000 years of persecution, it seems to me that Christians have been the ones doing the persecuting for much of that.

    “Jesus appeared as bright light, and blinded Saul for awhile;”

    Paul/Saul had what we would now call an hallucination. How did he even know that this bright light was Jesus? Maybe it was a UFO! (For the record, I don’t believe in UFOs)

  72. You realize you are opposite but equal to the true believers in UFOs. Their passion for their beliefs equals yours. Both sides will hide behind science and so-called “evidence” to enforce and protect their worldviews. No amount of evidence will ever convince a skeptic on this issue, because changing your mind on something you’ve proclaimed to the world is true is…well, it’s embarrassing. We prefer the comfort of our own firm opinions, reinforced by our favorite scientists, despite the fact that science has nothing to do with or say about the paranormal or metaphysics. The two sides should NEVER clash over “science.” It’s just plain silly to watch.

  73. For the record, I don’t believe in UFOs
    and
    You realize you are opposite but equal to the true believers in UFOs

    People are lying about seeing unidentified objects vs. those who really do think they are unidentified?

    I’m guessing both of you are equating “unidentified” with “extraterrestrial”. Not surprising considering even Briggs seems to be doing the same but it is surprising to see an agnostic/atheist making this leap.

    The two sides should NEVER clash over “science.” It’s just plain silly to watch.

    Like the arguments over plate tectonics and others. How humiliating. One wonders how The Science can ever advance in the face of these.

  74. This could be what some of the aerial images contain.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/watch-mysterious-alien-spaceship-being-5557212

    While it certainly resembles the common conception of a flying saucer, it most likely is a wingless autonomous X47B drone. Odd that it’s being towed in public view like that. Gotta wonder why. Like it was meant to be seen.

    I once worked at a top secret facility that appeared to have severe security measures with strange holes. For instance, after driving through three separate checkpoints and receiving a different badge between each, I could walk around with the final badge in my shirt pocket; never once was challenged to produce it; and was required to leave it on a desk deep inside before driving out without it. I suspect the installation was deliberately designed to leak whatever secrets it held.

  75. “I’m guessing both of you are equating “unidentified” with “extraterrestrial”. Not surprising considering even Briggs seems to be doing the same but it is surprising to see an agnostic/atheist making this leap.”

    Why do people still say things like this? Do you think it makes you sound intelligent? Lesson: In American pop culture, the term “UFO” signals space ships flown to earth from other planets. Yes, it literally means, Unidentified Flying Object, which literally could mean anything seen in our skies that we don’t understand, but don’t try to pretend like you don’t know which meaning people are using based on their question or statement. You sound like you can’t infer from context, which is a skill I’m currently teaching my second graders.

  76. Dave Smith,
    Why do people still say things like this? Do you think it makes you sound intelligent? Lesson: In American pop culture, the term “UFO” signals space ships flown to earth from other planets.
    Awww! Did I just ruin the Easter Bunny for you? Wait until you find out about Santa Claus.

    When someone hears bumps in the night and believes they are caused by ghosts one shouldn’t correct their fantasies? Yes, it is a pop culture thing. It’s why Briggs is so smug when there’s a proposed terrestrial cause (which also has its own problems BTW). The military even changed the designation to UAP to avoid the connotation and “unidentified” is still being equated to “alien”. They had to issue press releases to counteract it (https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/08/high-ranking-officials-scramble-ufo-report-public/). So you tell me: is there any way to avoid this silly equation? Should it be allowed to continue?

    There are many things in pop culture that are cute but far from correct. Briggs’s favorite is the misuse of p-value. Hopefully you explain why the context is wrong to your second graders instead of merely perpetuating it. Considering your post it appears you foster it.

  77. You are misreading what I said. Instead of asking for clarification, you went right to the personal attack (aww Easter Bunny, etc.)

    We don’t teach about UFOs in second grade because it is neither a science subject nor in any of our curricula. (By UFO, I mean “spaceship from another planet, possibly saucer shape, but perhaps spherical or cigar-shaped, with no self-evident propulsion system. Are you glad now I defined this term for you? I don’t want you to be confused by its usage anymore).

    If your only point here is I’m stupid, like everyone else who uses the term UFO in the vernacular, then you should probably find a hobby or some other outlet for your snobbery. But to settle this, whatever it is we are doing, I will share this insight with you: The VAST majority of people you interact with on line ALREADY KNOW what the words unidentified, flying and object mean. Put together, however, they take on another meaning, one that sometimes confuses even astute readers like yourself. In that case, DO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION OF TERMS. You might write, Dear sir, when you say UFOs, do you mean extraterrestrial spacecraft or an hitherto unknown object sighted in the sky? Then, once your on common, solid footing, proceed with your dialague.

    THAT is a lesson I teach my second graders.

  78. If your only point here is I’m stupid

    You have come out of nowhere and I really have no opinions about you although that may be changing. If you believe you’re stupid and I somehow pointed it out, I don’t see why that’s my problem.

    As for context you should go back and reread my comment you originally posted about and my post following it. You aren’t as good at comprehension as you apparently think.

  79. Mr Smith and YOS could have some fun together

    Of course the phrase “unidentified flying object” was for anybody looking at the sky who was in a position to aid and assist national defence. That’s the motive.

    It’s grown legs now, almond eyes, a specific shade of grey and is a multibillion pound industry.
    Everyone’s selling their book when the claim to be an expert on telly. Comedies are made about the topic. It’s food for the imagination.

    Military wouldn’t want t o spoil that and it is the easiest thing to use the cover of mystery when someone spots the latest test craft. They probably play pranks, too!

    It all plays into the natural nosiness of people and their desire for something exciting or new to happen even if it’s a bit scary.

    Re the video interpretation. Engineers in video technology know how images appear when machines are malfunctioning, when the artefact comes from within the camera, or from what kind of source the image is likely to have come.
    They are the best ones to identify what some say are “out of this world”.
    They’re probably coming from the camera itself.

    The Ghosts which appear on the videos in lifts, the one at Hampton Court (a very funny hoax, but scared me for a minute). They former is a CCTV which is in situ and the “film” records over itself
    People moving in the same way in a lift alcove over and over again, which leaves a spooky shadow.
    Hope that made some kind of sense.

    Essentially, lights moving at distance and on different points on a craft or a building, as Dav said, can look bizarre.
    Like the cat when she spots a reflection from your watch on the wall.
    The dog chases and barks at a torch light on the ceiling or the wall but when it reaches the floor she’s straight onto the bed or the chair!
    (dark magic), even dogs know when something’s not doing what it ought to. The response is fear.
    It’s nature’s warning.
    My dog was the scariest scooby-doo . When someone tried to push the back door which was half locked only, she came down the sjjtairs with me but stood behind my legs while I sorted it out.
    Then the barking was forthcoming.
    There’s something interesting in the fact that they realise the pattern of nature and know when something’s up.

    On supernatural, there is evidence, but it only appears to people to whom it has some kind of meaning. That can just be read as confirmation bias or a happy coincidence.
    It needed’t make the front page but is interesting when people tell their ‘supernatural’ encounters.

  80. By which I mean to imply that I still think there’s Something beyond this life, death is not the end and that’s all we’re allowed to know, or suspect/believe

  81. The depiction of aliens now common seems to have arisen from Spielberg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    https://images.app.goo.gl/sEiB2YYtyKgnbnUg6

    After the movie release, almost all purported alien being encounters suddenly resembled the movie version. There were earlier descriptions of them with gray skin and strange eyes.

    Spielberg’s aliens had a passing resemblance to the one in an Outer Limits episode
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bellero_Shield

    An example of how myths grow: embellishment upon embellishment.

  82. That Wikipedia picture reminded me of an episode of Homicide hunter (When Joe Kender), where one of the suspects or witnesses was described as looking like an alien grey. I won’t spoil by elaborating but the episode’s “Out There”

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