William M. Briggs

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The Intellectual Capacity Of Women by David Stove

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Jim Franklin hosted this classic essay of the late David Stove’s for many years. But he received a complaint from one of the intellectually Tolerant. As Franklin said on this site, “An authorized officer of the University of New South Wales has requested that one of David Stove’s articles not be hosted on a UNSW web server. So the David Stove website has moved. It can be found at [Gerry Nolan’s Stove site].”

The article is “The Intellectual Capacity Of Women”, which appears in Chapter 5 of Cricket Versus Republicanism, Quakers Hill Press, 1995 and was originally published in Proceedings of the Russellian Society, Vol. 15, 1990. It also appears in a must-have compendium of Stove’s work edited by Roger Kimball Against the Idols of the Age (it was Kimball who first alerted me to Franklin’s predicament). Franklin, who is Stove’s literary executor, gave me permission to host the article here.

To say that this essay was controversial is like saying Hillary Clinton is shrill. I post it for several reasons. One: there’s gold to be mined from it. Two: to prove that those who say “In science no topic is sacrosanct” and “There are no dogmas in science” lie. Three: to make sure it doesn’t die. Four: Stove was a self-professed non-theist, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t brilliant. Still, word has it that he wasn’t entirely satisfied with parts of this essay as time went by, so there is plenty to discuss (such as the nature of probability). Five: Since the main article is partly philosophical and mainly probabilitistic, it will be of great interest to regular readers.

One word of advice: read it before commenting. Off we go! A PDF of the article can be downloaded here. Update It is becoming obvious many are ignoring the admonition to actually read the entire argument..

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I BELIEVE THAT the intellectual capacity of women is on the whole inferior to that of men. By “on the whole,” I do not mean just “on the average”; though I do mean that much. My belief is, if you take any degree of intellectual capacity which is above average for the human race, as a whole, then a possessor of that degree of intellectual capacity is a good deal more likely to be man than a woman.

This proposition is consistent, of course, with there being women, and indeed with there being any number of women, at any level of intellectual capacity however high. But it does mean, for example, that if there is a large number of women at a given above average level of intellectual capacity, then there is an even larger number of men at that level.

In the past almost everyone, whether man or woman, learned or unlearned, believed the intellectual capacity of women to be inferior to that of men. Even now this is, I think, the belief of most people in most parts of the world. In this article my main object is simply to remind the reader of what the evidence is, and always was, for this old belief, and of how strong that evidence is.

An opposite belief has become widely current in the last few years, in societies like our own: the belief that the intellectual capacity of women is on the whole equal to that of men. If I could, I would discuss here the reasons for the sudden adoption by many people of this opinion. But I cannot, because I have not been able to find any reasons for it, as distinct from causes of it. The equality-theory (as I will call it) is not embraced on the grounds of any startling facts which have only lately come to light. It is not embraced on the grounds of some old familiar facts which have been misunderstood until lately. It is not embraced, as far as I can see, on any grounds at all, but from mere prejudice and passion. If you ask people, “What evidence is there for the equality-theory?”, you do not get an answer (though you are likely to get other things).

Rather, the question is felt to be somehow improper, morally or intellectually, and is thought not to deserve any answer.

I do not know why it should be thought so. The question is a perfectly proper one morally and intellectually, and should not be hard to answer. That men and women have the same intellectual capacity is not, after all, a self-evident proposition, like (say) “7 + 5 = 12” nor is it something just obvious, like (say) the sun’s rising in the east. So if it is rational to believe it, there must be evidence for it: facts which lead to it by good reasoning. But where is that evidence to be found?

By contrast, there is no difficulty at all in saying what the evidence is, and always was, for the other theory, the theory of the inferior intellectual capacity of women. This evidence is not at all esoteric, but on the contrary is of the most familiar and homely kind. The main reason why I believe, and the main reason why nearly everyone always has believed, that the intellectual capacity of women is inferior to that of men, is just this: that the intellectual performance of women is inferior to that of men.

The reasoning involved, then, is reasoning from inferior performance to inferior capacity. It is reasoning of the same general kind, therefore, as that which convinces us, even if we understand nothing of the internal make-up of cars, that Fords are on the whole inferior to Mercedes; or as that which convinces dog-fanciers that Irish setters are not as smart as labradors; or as that which convinces everyone that the intellectual capacity of seven-year-old children is on the whole inferior to that of nine-year-olds. They do not do as well, and we infer from this that they cannot do as well.

This is a very homely kind of reasoning, to be sure. But that is not to say that there is anything wrong with it, and in fact no one distrusts reasoning of this kind. On the contrary, we could scarcely take a single step, in science or in common life, if we did not rely on this kind of reasoning.

Of course no thoughtful person mistakes such reasoning for proof. Inference from inferior performance to inferior capacity is fallible: that should go without saying. Everyone knows that a car, or an organism, may on a given occasion fail to perform as well as it can perform: there was some interfering factor at work. And this can happen not just on one occasion, or to just one organism. A whole class of organisms might perform below capacity, in a given respect, for any length of time, or forever. It is even logically possible that every organism of a certain kind should have a certain capacity, and yet that interfering factors prevent every one of them from ever exercising that capacity even once. So far, then, is inferior performance from being an infallible indication of inferior capacity. And so far, too, should we be, from mistaking the inferior intellectual performance of women for a proof of their inferior intellectual capacity.

This, then, is one commonplace truth which needs to be borne in mind when we think about the intellectual capacity of women: that capacity does not require performance. But there are other such commonplace truths, and some of these point in the opposite direction.

One is that, although performance is no infallible guide to capacity, it is, in the end, the only guide we have or can have. I do not mean that there can be no evidence of A’s capacity to F, unless A actually has F-ed at least once. That would be a stupid thing to say. When I meet a brown snake in the bush, I have good evidence of its capacity to inflict a dangerous bite on me, even if this particular snake has never bitten anyone. Again, a chemist often has good evidence concerning the capacities of a compound which, until he makes it in the laboratory, has never even existed, and which therefore cannot possibly have yet exercised any of its capacities. All I mean is, that the evidence for an unexercised capacity, which is a kind of unrealised possibility, cannot consist in its turn just of other unexercised capacities, or unrealised possibilities. Such evidence must include some actualised possibilities, some exercises of capacities. If the chemist, for example, is entitled to say in advance that his new compound X will have the capacity to F, that is because he knows of capacities which have actually been exercised by existing elements or compounds. While, then, capacity does not require performance, still evidence of a capacity does require performances, of some kind, by something or other, somewhere along the line.

Another important commonplace about capacity and performance is this: if we believe that something has a certain capacity, but the expected performance is not forthcoming, then we may not postulate just any old interfering factors in order to explain the discrepancy. Suppose our pet theory is that every B has the capacity to G, but the evidence is that B’s have never or hardly ever G-ed, although there have been billions of B’s, placed in the widest variety of circumstances. Then we may not save our theory just by saying: “H is a factor which inhibits G-ing, and it is possible that H has been present in most of the cases.” Nor may we just say, “Oh well, there must be something which has so far stopped B’s from G-ing”, or “Somehow, B’s have never had a fair chance to G.” Nor may we just say, “Satan likes to stop B’s from realising their G-potential; he is a non-B himself, you know.” Statements such as these might happen, indeed, to be true. But given the evidence of the B’s’ actual performance, one would be irrational to believe them. Where the relevant performance is absent, it is rational to believe that a capacity is present, only if there is evidence of some actual, specific, and detectable interfering factor. Merely possible interfering factors, or actual but indefinite ones, or ones which, even if actual and definite , are undetectable (like Satan), will not do.

The reason why they won’t do is obvious enough: that otherwise anyone could safely ascribe any capacity to anything. I, for example, a former village-cricketer but now too old even for that, could safely claim to have the capacity, at this very moment, to play cricket as well as Vivian Richards does. Brown bread, as well as brown snakes, could be credited with the capacity to inflict a dangerous bite. Men could be credited with a thousand times the intellectual capacity of women; and vice versa; and so on. We would need only to blame undetectable interfering factors, or indefinite ones, or merely possible ones, for having so far prevented the exercise of these interesting capacities.

Suppose that you want to know whether a certain coin is a fair one, but that for some reason or other you are not allowed to subject the coin to any direct physical test. In that case you will have to rely on tossing it, and observing the relative frequency with which “heads” and “tails” come up. You will have to infer what the probability of heads is, i.e. whether it is .5 or not, from the observed frequency of heads. As it would be manifestly irrational to draw such a conclusion from a few tosses, you will of course toss the coin a large number of times. A thousand tosses would surely be a large enough “sample” to base a rational inference on. Suppose the coin comes up heads 539 times in this thousand tosses. Then, if you are rational, you will strongly incline to the belief that the coin is not fair, but slightly biased to heads. If you wanted to put the matter beyond reasonable doubt, you would try to exclude, as far as one can, the possibility that the coin itself is fair but that the tossing of it has so far not been fair. The only rational way to do that is to arrange for more sets of tosses, of a thousand each, to be made. You will have some of them made by Jack and some by Jill, some in January and some in June, and so on. In short you will “vary the circumstances” (as philosophers say), in every way you can think of that seems at all likely to make any difference to the frequencies. If you have suspect that a factor H, which was present for certain sets of tosses, may have interfered to depress the frequency of tails below the probability of tails, then you will ensure that H is absent in an equal number of other sets of tosses. Suppose that in this way you make a thousand sets of a thousand tosses each, i.e. a million tosses all told, and that the number of heads in a thousand tosses never falls below 500, never rises above 550, and in almost every case is between 525 and 535. Then, if you are rational, you will be firmly convinced that the coin is not fair, but is biased to heads to the tune of about 53-47: that is, that the probability of heads with it is about .53. Someone who knew all the evidence of the tosses, and had no specific objection to make to the variety or the number of the trials, yet persisted in believing that the coin is fair, would be manifestly irrational. Indeed, one would have to doubt such a person’s sanity, or suspect that the fairness of the coin is a point of religion with him. His crazy proposition, that the probability of heads with this coin is .5, is not logically inconsistent with the observed frequency of heads being about .53. The fact is, a probabilistic or statistical generalisation (with the trivial exception of “closed” ones, like “80% of the present Federal Cabinet are men”), can never be disproved by observed frequencies. “The probability of an F being a G is r” is consistent (once you set aside the “degenerate” values of r, 1 and 0), with every possible frequency of G’s which might be observed in a sample of F’s, however large the sample, and however varied. Hence if someone were to accept all the evidence mentioned above about the tosses, and still maintain that our coin is fair, he would not actually be contradicting himself

This only goes to show, of course, that consistency, or not contradicting yourself, is only a very small part of rationality. To believe that the coin is fair is irrational in the light of our evidence, even though it is consistent with that evidence. After all, if the coin had never once come up heads in all of our million tosses, then that too—that is, an observed frequency of no heads in a million tosses—would have been logically consistent with the hypothesis that the coin is fair. Or again, if someone had the hypothesis that the coin is so very biased that the probability of heads with it is .99, then that hypothesis too would be consistent with an observed frequency of no heads in a million tosses. And so on: we need to fix in our minds the point that absolutely any observed frequency is consistent with every probability other than 1 and 0. And a consequence is this: where probabilitistic or statistical hypotheses are concerned, consistency with the observed frequency counts for literally nothing in favour of any one hypothesis, because it is a property common to every hypothesis.

In our coin case, therefore, with an observed frequency of heads uniformly around .53, it would be merely fatuous if some one kept on saying “Still the coin might be a fair one,” or “You haven’t proved that the coin is biased,” or “There could have been an unnoticed factor at work, depressing the frequency of tails below the probability.” These statements are true, but they are fatuous, because they are merely logical truths. They are simply ways of expressing the truth that the frequency of heads which has been observed is logically consistent with the proposition that the coin is fair; and that, as we have seen, would be true whatever the observed frequency had been. The logical possibility that a factor interfered with tails is no reason whatever to believe that a factor did interfere with tails; any more than the logical possibility of your car having turned into a lobster last night is a reason to believe that you have a four-wheeled lobster in the garage now. Reason to believe in an unexercised capacity, such as a capacity in our coin to come up tails as often as heads, requires evidence, (as I said before), of a detectable, definite, and actual interfering factor. The logical possibility of interference is no evidence whatever of interference.

The only rational inference to make about our coin, in view of the number and variety of the trials, is that the probability of heads with it is close to the observed frequency of heads, i.e. about .53. Of course this reasoning is not proof. Of course we may be mistaken in rejecting the hypothesis that the coin is fair.

But these, as I keep emphasising, are trivial logical truths. And they take nothing away from another logical truth, namely this: that in relation to the evidence which we actually have, it is nearly certain that the coin is not fair, but that the probability of heads with it is about.53.

Probabilities are a sort of graduated capacities, and the question about the comparative intellectual capacity of men and women is, like the question whether a certain coin is fair, a question about probabilities. What we want to know is whether the probability of a woman having d, where d is a given above-average degree of intellectual capacity, is equal to the probability of a man having d. We were not able, I supposed, to make direct physical tests from our coin: that was why we were obliged to infer the probability of heads from the frequency of heads observed in a large and varied sample of tosses. Just so, we are in fact not able to make direct tests of human intellectual capacity. We do not know enough to be able to do so at all as yet, and tests which are both precise and reliable are indefinitely far off. Even when they become technically possible, law or morality may well forbid their being made.

We are therefore thrown back, just as in the coin case, on having to infer the probabilities from the observed frequencies: that is, on inferring the comparative intellectual capacities of men and women from their comparative intellectual performances in that large and varied “sample” which is past human history.

In this sample, just as in the coin case, the observed frequencies are uniformly unfavourable to the equality-theory. In every field in which intellectual capacity can be exercised, from the most severely theoretical to the most intensely practical such as business, or medical practice, or war, there have always been far more men than women at any above-average level of performance. This is not in dispute.

No one disputes the following, either: that from this uniform inequality in the frequencies of intellectual performances between the two sexes, it will be rational to infer a similar inequality in their probabilities of intellectual performances, that is, in their intellectual capacities, if the observed sample, namely human history, is (first) large enough, and (second) varied enough.

And no one disputes that the sample is large enough. There have been a very great many women and men. Human intellectual capacity is a coin which has been tossed, not a million times, but very many billions of times.

The question, therefore, on which everything in this dispute turns, is whether human history is a varied enough sample to base a rational inference on. I believe, and most others, I think, believe, that it is. That is, we believe that there has been enough variety, in the circumstances in which humans have been placed, to exclude every explanation worth considering, of the observed difference in the intellectual performance of the two sexes, except a difference between them in intellectual capacity. We therefore conclude that the respective probabilities are close to the observed frequencies, or that the intellectual capacity of women is about as much below that of men as their past intellectual performance has been below that of men.

The equality-theorist says, and as we have seen must say, that there has not been enough variety in the “trials.” Common to all or most past history, he must say, there has always been some factor or factors interfering with the exercise of the intellectual capacity of women, depressing the frequency of their intellectual performance below the probability of it.

Well, have there been such common factors, or have there not? Has the variety of human circumstances been great enough to constitute a fair trial of the intellectual capacity of women, or has it not? This is the question, I repeat, on which all turns.

On such a matter it should go without saying that certainty, or even the degree of rational confidence which we can reach concerning the bias of a coin, is out of the question. No one can have a detailed knowledge of all human history. Even more to the point, humans are not only more complicated than coins, but are, as far as we know, the most complicated things there are. As a result, a human has more ways of interacting with its surroundings than anything else has; and as a further result, there are more ways, in the case of a human than in any other case, in which a capacity can fail to get full expression in performance. It must therefore be harder, in the human case than any other, to reach a given degree of rational confidence that we have in fact excluded all but one of the possible causes of a given effect.

But the complexity of human beings, and the scale of human history, should not tempt us to draw the sceptical conclusion, that human history can never constitute a fair trial, or a trial reasonably believed to be fair, of human capacities. That would be merely silly. At that rate, if the intellectual performance of women were to be equal to that of men for the next million years, and in the widest variety of circumstances, we would still have to say at the end of that time that we hadn’t the vaguest idea how the intellectual capacities of the two sexes compare. Anyway, this sceptical or “desperation” position is not open to either side of our dispute, which is between two parties each of which holds that, although certainty is out of reach, rational belief on the matter is not only possible in principle, but possible on the evidence which is available now.

Whether or not the historical sample is varied enough, it is certainly prodigiously varied. The variety of physical and social circumstances in which women have found themselves is, surely, just about as great as the variety which is possible for any class of persons. Women have been pirates and poets, princes and paupers, priests and prostitutes: you name it, some women have been it, if it is logically and biologically possible for a woman to be it. Almost every conceivable factor, therefore, which might have been thought to constitute an impediment to the intellectual performance of some women, has been removed in the case of some other women. Yet their intellectual performance, or at least the comparison of it with the intellectual performance of men, has not varied. This is true of the variety in women’s circumstances which occurs spontaneously between or within societies; but the same is true of that variety in women’s circumstances which has been introduced by human contrivance. Wherever some defect has been found or imagined in existing arrangements for the education of females, energetic and ingenious people have always been busy setting up a form of education free from that real or supposed defect. Novel schemes of education, intended among other things to remove obstacles to the exercise of the intellectual capacity of women, are. at least as old as Plato, and hundreds of them have been put into more or less widespread practice. Yet despite all this variety in the supposed causes of female intellectual performance, the effects have been singularly invariant. I do not mean that these schemes of education have never had any effect at all on female intellectual performance. I do not know, but it is in any case indifferent to my thesis, whether they have or not. My thesis only requires, what is the case, that educational innovations have never shown any significant tendency to bridge the gap between male and female intellectual performance.

Is not this virtually-unlimited variety, variety enough? Has it not constituted a fair trial of the intellectual capacity of women? “No,” says the equality-theorist. But this theory now begins to reminds us of a supremely silly thing which G. K. Chesterton once said: that Christianity has not been tried and found wanting, but was found difficult, and never properly tried. Now, I ask you: Christianity not had a fair trial? Why, at this rate, nothing has ever had a fair trial, and we can know, or even rationally believe, nothing whatever about the capacities of anything: brown snakes, brown bread … anything. But this is just an even stronger version of that silly scepticism which I mentioned a moment ago. In fact we know, or near-enough know, that Christianity does not have the capacity, which it claims to have, to satisfy indefinitely the religious aspiration of all human beings. And such a case proves, let us notice, that an historical sample of performance can be varied enough, and large enough, to be the basis of a rational inference to capacity, or rather to the lack of capacity.

A comparison between Christianity, and the supposedly-equal intellectual capacity of women, is in fact worth pausing over. Equality-theorists are never tired of reminding us of the obstacles which have been put in the way of the exercise of the intellectual capacity of women, at such-and-such a period, in that society or the other; and of course there are countless such cases. Those obstacles, however, have never been more than trifles when compared with the obstacles which, in countless cases, have been put in the way of the practice of the Christian religion. It is a mere abuse of words to speak, as some do, of “martyrs” and “persecution” in the one case as in the other. In both cases, for every instance in which some obstacle was put in the way, there is another instance in which that obstacle was not put in the way. Now, Christianity has sometimes made its way, sometimes without obstacles, sometimes even with obstacles; whereas the supposed equal intellectual capacity of women has never made its way, with or even without obstacles. Yet female intellectual capacity has obviously been tried in a far greater number of cases, and in a far wider variety of circumstances, than Christianity.

You can’t go on forever saying “The game’s not fair,” when the game has been played ten billion times, under a billion different circumstances; at least, if you are rational you cannot, unless you are prepared to say in just what way it is not fair. Exactly where, then, is the variety in our historical sample deficient? Just what is that factor, common to all or most past history, which has interfered with the exercise of the intellectual capacity of women? And the answer must be, as I said earlier, some actual, definite, and detectable factor.

But of course not every such factor will do. Some people love just stringing together anecdotes: women were prevented from exercising their intellectual capacity by this obstacle in Periclean Athens, by that obstacle in Confucian China, by the other obstacle in seventeenth-century France, etc. But an equality-theorist must do more than this. He has to offer some definite explanation of why the intellectual capacity of women has so consistently met with obstacles it could not overcome, and his explanation must be one which is consistent with the equality-theory. It would obviously be no good, for example, if he were to say, “The main interfering factor has been the aggressiveness, sexual exclusiveness, and superior cunning of males.” This suggestion, considered in itself, is by no means without merit: aggressiveness, sexual exclusiveness, and superior cunning are definite and detectable things, and I at least believe that they actually do operate in males, and do impede, to some extent, the intellectual performance of women. But of course the suggestion is not one which an equality-theorist can adopt, since to ascribe superior cunning to males is to contradict the very intellectual equality for which he contends.

Presumably no equality-theorist has ever been quite so foolish as to offer the explanation just mentioned. But there are subtler forms of the same inconsistency which do constitute a serious temptation to an equality-theorist, and a more serious temptation, the more sensible the equality-theorist happens to be. What could possibly be more natural and sensible, for example, than to suggest that the uniformly inferior intellectual performance of women is connected in some way with their reproductive capacity? Some of the more sensible equality-theorists, accordingly, are somewhat drawn to this suggestion. But then it will scarcely be possible for them to avoid contradicting their own theory.

A plantation-owner gave his slaves a large quantity of whisky on New Year’s Eve, and asked them next morning what they thought of its quality. “Just right,” was the answer. “What do you mean, ‘just right’?” “Well, if it had been any worse we couldn’t have drunk it, and if it had been any better you wouldn’t have given it to us.” If this story is not true it is at least well-founded.

It is also of very wide application: “Just right” is the general rule in the organic world. A species has those capacities, in those degrees, which are necessary, but no more than are necessary, to keep up its numbers. As Hume wrote (in Part XI of his Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion): “Every animal has the requisite endowments; but these endowments are bestowed with so scrupulous an economy, that any considerable diminution must entirely destroy the creature. Wherever one power is increased, there is a proportional abatement in others. Animals which excel in swiftness, are commonly defective in force. Those which possess both are either imperfect in some of their senses, or are oppressed with the most craving wants.” Darwinian theory acknowledges this fact, of course, and even up to a point explains it. But the fact was noticed long before Darwin, and must be acknowledged on any theory.

Although “Just right” is the general rule in nature, it is not the invariable rule. Since species are sometimes extinguished, their capacities are not always up to their tasks. And on the other side there are, or appear to be, excessive endowments, and capacities of a degree quite beyond what is needed to enable the species to keep up with the Joneses. A famous example of excessive endowments is the peacock’s tail: Darwin tells us it gave him nightmares, as well it might. But human intellectual capacity is itself another striking example. Humans do indeed need some intellectual superiority over other animals, precisely because (as Hume goes on to say) they are, of all animals, “the most necessitous, and the most deficient in bodily advantages”: they have no natural weapons, no body-covering, no uncommon strength, stamina, or speed. But why have humans got so much intellectual capacity? What biological need was there for the intellectual capacity, I will not say of a Hume or a Darwin, but even of the average philosopher? Wallace, though more Darwinian than Darwin himself, in the sense of being less Lamarckian, was convinced, by the superfluity of human intellectual capacity, that something more than natural selection must have been at work in the descent of man; as well he might be.

Still, whether or not there is an Author of Nature, there certainly is, overall, a recognisable style in nature, and it is the ‘Just right’ style: the style, as Hume says, not of “an indulgent parent” but of “a rigid master.” And the principle of parsimony does not stop at the distribution of capacities to species. It extends to the distribution of capacities between the sexes of a single species. If a species devotes a large part of its energy-budget to food-getting, say, or the defence of territory, or home-making, or reproduction, or nurture of young, then one sex takes on more of that task than the other does, and it will take on less of some other major task; and either sex will be comparatively or entirely deficient in the capacities required for the “specialisms” of the other sex. Again, this is not an invariable rule. In many species of birds, for example, the heavy task of getting food for the young falls equally on both sexes. But it is the general rule: if you take any major task that a species performs, it is exceptional for the two sexes to be exactly equally equipped to perform it.

The energy of organisms is like your money: it can be turned into almost anything, but there is only a certain amount of it to go round. So, whether among species or between the sexes of one species, lavish expenditure on one side means going short on another. The more you invest in heavy body-covering, say, the less you can put into mobility, and so on. And if one sex spends energy extravagantly on defence of territory, say, then the other sex is going to have to do more than an equal share of other main jobs, such as food-getting, or nurture of young.

On the side of reproduction and nurture, the human race carries a uniquely heavy burden. Gestation is long and taxing: yet that is the comparatively easy part. The adults of the species are omnivores, yet the new-born are such tiresome doctrinaires about food that almost nothing in the world except milk will do for them, and even at non-human milk they are apt to look askance and die. Above all there is the extreme and prolonged helplessness of the human young. This is, indeed, so marked a peculiarity of our species, and so cruel a drain on its energy-budget, that it gave rise to the thought, as early as the sixth century BC, that we must have descended from some other species which had a more sensible policy on nurture. We would never have got here, the Greek philosopher Anaximander reasoned, if all our antecedents had been as extravagant as we are in spending energy on absolute beginners!

Virtually all of this huge burden must fall on women. Men are not equipped for gestation or lactation, and what they can do to share the burden of nurture of the new-born is extremely little. The mother and the new-born, in man as in all the higher mammals, are obviously programmed to attach themselves to one another, literally and metaphorically; but there is no such programme in the father. Recently, of course, fathers of a certain kind have made a great business of being at the birth of their children, sharing the nappy-changing, etc., and no doubt some of them are occasionally of some real help in this way. But really, when you compare this with the deadly-earnest business which is going on at every moment between mother and infant, it is play. It is about as much help as those elaborate mock-confinements, etc., which fathers in many primitive societies insist on undergoing, and it should indeed be recognised as our contemporary version of those. In short the whole affair is mainly an expression of injured male self-importance, and a graceless one at that. Of course all this may be different, and the burdens of reproduction and nurture may be shared more equally between the sexes, if and when our species is superseded by another. But I am talking about H. sapiens, and in that species those burdens cannot fall to any significant extent on males.

Now in man, as in all animals, a peculiarity of reproduction-and-nurture is this: that of all the major tasks of the species, it is the one for which the innate programme is most complete, and the one, therefore, which requires the least intellectual effort for its performance. In plain English: a woman does not need to use her brains to have a baby, and doesn’t even need to use them much in order to see the infant through the period of its most extreme helplessness. Nearly everything she needs to know is already written in her inner manual. By contrast, every other major task, such as getting food or defending territory, abounds in totally-unforeseeable individual contingencies. It can therefore be only schematically programmed-for: you have to fill in most of the important details ad hoc, as each new situation arises. And that means that you constantly have to be using your brains. Think, for example, of the task, the very urgent task, of getting meat to eat. It is an extremely difficult task, and the difficulty is intellectual as much as physical. There is no meat going round asking to be made a meal of, and all the meat that is going round displays amazing cunning in the effort to preserve its life. Even finding the animal is often an intellectual feat, but even when you have found it, unless you can also out-think it, you will eat vegetarian or not at all that night. In short, the intellectual activity which is required for successful hunting is extremely great. And so it is, to a greater or less degree, with all the other major tasks confronting the human species, except reproduction. And so it must be, for the simple reason which Hume gave: that humans have got very little going for them except “reason and sagacity.”

In summary, then: our species has, like every other, a fixed energy-budget, and out of this it spends very heavily, far more heavily than any other species does, on reproduction-and-nurture. This great cost is borne exclusively by women, while reproduction-and-nurture is, of all the major calls on the budget, that one which demands the least intellectual activity. Now, there is a general principle of parsimony prevailing in the organic world, according to which a species, or a sex within a species, is endowed only with the minimum capacities, or degrees of capacities, needed for survival.

One would expect, then, that the sex not burdened with reproduction-and-nurture would shoulder the main burden of those other major tasks which are intellectually more demanding; and therefore, by the principle of parsimony, that men will have a higher degree than women of what is peculiarly required for those tasks, intellectual capacity. I do not claim that this inference is inevitable, but it is at least a natural one. And vague as its premises are, they do furnish, I believe, the lines along which an explanation must be sought for the intellectual difference observed between men and women.

Even some equality-theorists, as I said before, show signs of inclining to some such biological explanation of the facts. But any equality-theorist who accepted the explanation which I have just outlined would be simply inconsistent; just as one would be who accepted an explanation in terms of superior male cunning. What the equality-theorist needs is an explanation, consistent with the equal intellectual capacity of men and women, of their unequal intellectual performance. But what I have just advanced, if it is an explanation of anything, is an explanation of the inferior intellectual capacity of women. I offer, indeed, a kind of interfering factor, but that factor is inferior capacity, rooted in the general biology of the species and its sexes. The equality-theorist, on the other hand, has to try to find some interfering factor which, though it has beset the entire female sex throughout the entire history of the species, is not rooted in biology. Well, it is his work, and he is welcome to it.

I have sometimes been asked “What would it take to convince you that the intellectual capacity of women is equal to that of men?” This is a kind of question which it is often instructive to ask, and certainly it is a fair one here. I can easily answer it and will.

But since intellectual performance is the only guide we have to intellectual capacity, while the intellectual performance of men has always been superior to that of women, the question is an ever fairer one if it turned around, and addressed to the equality-theorist: “What would convince you of the inferior intellectual capacity of women?” And this question is one which many equality-theorists, I think, would not find at all easy to answer. The religious quality of their attachment to their theory is, in many instances, only too obvious.

Here is something which would not convince me of the equality-theory: reports by psychologists or educationists of tests, conducted within recent years, on (for example) the comparative mathematical ability of boys and girls. Such reports would not only not convince me: I do not believe that any attention at all should be paid to them. My main reason for this is not the public record of psychologists for fraud or susceptibility to fraud or of educationists for unswerving obedience to the winds of fashion; although this record is sufficient in itself to justify a hearty scepticism towards their reports. My main reason is a quite general principle: that a person’s testimony should carry no weight or little weight with you, if you are sure or nearly sure that his testimony would have been the same whatever had actually happened. If you are pretty sure that the boy would be crying “Wolf!” whether he had seen a wolf or not, you give him little credence, if you are rational, when he does cry “Wolf!”. Well, everyone can be pretty sure that, if educationists or psychologists report nowadays on a test of mathematical ability between boys and girls, say, they will report the girls as doing at least as well as the boys, whether they really did or not. If the tests seem to show markedly superior mathematical ability in the boys, the experimenters will not only withhold publication of the results, but will almost certainly themselves believe that their experiment must have been defective in some way. It is as simple as that. So, when such persons do report equal mathematical performance by girls and boys, rational people simply ignore their reports.

This is a sad state of affairs, but it is, of course, the equality-theorists who are chiefly to blame for bringing it about. For they have created in recent years a climate of feeling in which many men are afraid to deny the equality-theory openly, and even ashamed to doubt it inwardly. Hence the phenomena which are now so observable, of hypocrisy, self-deception, and pious fraud: those invariable concomitants of a militant religion.

“Would fifty years, or five hundred years, of equal intellectual performance by women and men, convince you of their equal intellectual capacity?” That would depend entirely on the circumstances. For it might then be my turn to cry “The game’s not fair,” and I might be able to make the charge stick too. I might be able to identify some interfering factor which was more than adequate to explain the discrepancy between my theory and the observed facts. Pressure-cooker education for all girls, say, or huge cash-incentives for brilliant women university students, or punishment for brilliant male ones. Obviously, if there really were such factors at work, it would be quite irrational for me, or for anyone, to take the equal performance at face-value, however long it might go on.

What would convince me of the equal intellectual capacity of men and women is, simply, the kind of evidence which, as things are, convinces me of the opposite: that is, equal intellectual performance, over a long time, and in the widest variety of circumstances.

Nothing else would convince me, or even begin to do so. In particular, no experiments of any kind, however well-conducted, would weigh with me, if their results were inconsistent with the verdict of ordinary experience. If intellectual performance continued to be, as it has always been, unequal, in all the limitless and largely-undesigned variety of life, then that is the evidence I would trust. If all the educationists (etc.) in the world, even without the influence of fraud or self-deception, reported equal intellectual performance by the juveniles of either sex, it would cut no ice with me; and similarly if all the geneticists and molecular biologists could not detect, by their most refined experiments, any physical basis for the unequal performance of the two sexes. I would still stand by the evidence, raw and unanalysed as it is, of a long and varied experience, if that still testified to inequality.

I think that every rational person would do the same, yet I must admit that what I have just said sounds a bit off-key. It does so, because it conflicts, or appears to conflict, with a point of orthodox scientific method to which we all subscribe: that an ounce of controlled experiment is worth a ton of unanalysed observation.

I could say, with some plausibility, that the conflict is only apparent. I could say, that is, that controlled experiment does always outweigh unanalysed observation, but that, on something as complex as human genes, experiments never are able to be rigidly controlled, and therefore can sometimes be outweighed by a large mass of mere observations. But this does not seem quite plausible enough. Experiments on human genes which are at least nearly as rigidly-controlled as the best experiments anywhere, will surely be possible soon, if they are not so already. I am therefore inclined to think that the conflict is real, but that it is just not true that controlled experiment always outweighs unanalysed observation.

There is independent reason to think this. Consider the proposition: “Monkeys treading at random on typewriter-keys will never reproduce the works of Shakespeare.” It is not a scientific law, or anything like one. The evidence we have for it is massive, indeed irresistible, but it is utterly unanalysed, and certainly includes no controlled experiments, on monkeys, typewriters, or anything else. Consider, on the other hand, those propositions which we have the best reason to believe are scientific laws. For these, the best evidence does consist of certain rigidly-controlled experiments.

Yet every rational person, I think, is more confident of the above proposition about the monkeys, than he is of any proposition which he takes to be a scientific law.

There are certain things which, though they would not convince me of the intellectual equality of men and women, would certainly, if true, go some way to confirm that proposition. One is, statistics which suggest that the past intellectual performance of non-reproductive women has been equal or nearly equal to that of men.

Child-bearing is so extremely obvious an impediment to intellectual performance that, to any sensible equality-theorist, a compromise is bound to suggest itself, between the equality-theory and any inequality-theory like the one which I sketched above. My suggestion was, in effect, that it is the reproductive capacity, and not the actual bearing and nurture of children, which accounts for the inferior intellectual performance of women. But the suggestion is bound to arise that the burden of actual reproduction-and-nurture is sufficient to account for the observed inferior intellectual performance of women.

If this were so it would undoubtedly save the equality-theory, But it simply does not seem to be so. Women university students, although hardly any of them have given birth, are uniformly present in smaller numbers (proportionately) than men, at any above-average level of intellectual performance. At least, this is the case in any branch of university work which is very intellectually-demanding.

The trouble with the “actual-reproduction” theory is, that it is altogether too easy. We all know, only two vividly, the sort of instances which first suggest it, and which, as far as they go, really do confirm it: the intelligent woman, with a PhD thesis uncompleted or an important novel hardly begun, whose meagre frame must sustain, through the “best” years of her life, the slings and arrows of outrageous offspring. No doubt these appearances are often delusive: the thesis would (like most others) suffer deserved neglect if it ever were completed, the novel is a phantom-child which, if it ever were produced, would prove an even greater anticlimax than the children of her body. But often, perhaps equally often, the appearances are not delusive at all. There cannot be the smallest question, in a rational mind, that in countless cases the exercise of the intellectual capacity of women has been more or less frustrated by the exercise of the reproductive capacity, and that untold suffering has resulted from this.

But then, who can tell us the extent to which non-reproductive women have had the exercise of their intellectual capacity frustrated by other causes, for example economic ones? Here our thoughts fly to the Jane Austens, George Eliots, Caroline Herschels, etc., as though their existence settled the matter. But this is merely an instance of that well-known human frailty, “accentuating the positive”: we remember the day we walked under a ladder and later broke a leg, and we forget all the “negative instances.” That the Jane Austens, etc., are very exceptional among women, we know. But here we need to know that they are not equally exceptional among non-reproductive women; and who does know this? Non-reproductive women, as a class, are peculiarly little-known. They scarcely exist in many societies, and where they do exist they tend to lead an invisible or interstitial life. For about 1700 Years, vast numbers of them in the West found their way into religious institutions, and thus became, with not one exception in ten thousand, totally lost to our view. Yet even here, I must point out, the old cruel inequality asserts itself. The medieval monastery was often a repository, at least, of learning, and sometimes an active centre of learning; the nunnery was neither. Similarly, outside the monasteries, religious orders of celibate males have often been remarkable for intellectual activity (the Jesuits being the most striking example); but their female counterparts have never been so.

One could make a start, as far as the British are concerned, by going through The Dictionary of National Biography, getting out all the women noticed there for intellectual performance, and seeing how this class divides between reproductives and nonreproductives. I have not done this. As far as I know, no one else has done it either for Britons or anyone else. And I cannot help thinking that such a statistic, if it were known to anyone and pointed at all unambiguously towards a level of intellectual performance by non-reproductive women which was close to that of men, it would by now be known to everyone. In fact the very dogs would be barking it. As they are not, one must infer that such a statistic is either not known to anyone, or is not such as to afford any significant comfort to equality-theorists. And on the first of those alternatives the actual reproduction theory is unsupported, while on the second it is discredited.

As I have now said what would convince or begin to convince me of the falsity of my belief, I may be entitled to renew my question to the equality-theorists: What would convince them of the falsity of their belief? What would they even regard as being some evidence against it?

Any serious answers to these questions would be instructive, but I do not really expect to receive any such answer. The evidence for the inferior intellectual capacity of women is so obvious and overwhelming, that anyone who can lightly set it aside must be defective in their attitude to evidence; and our contemporary equality-theorists are in fact (as I have hinted several times), religious rather than rational in their attitude to evidence. As providing some further indication of this, the following thought-experiment may be of use. Suppose that the historical evidence had been the exact reverse of what it has usually been: that is, suppose that the intellectual performance of men had been uniformly inferior, under the widest variety of circumstances, to that of women. Rational people would in that case be as confident of the superior intellectual capacity of women as they now are of the reverse. But would those people who are at present equality-theorists be as confident then as they are now of the equal intellectual capacity of the two sexes? To ask this question is to answer it. The fact is, our egalitarians treat evidence on a basis of heads-I-win-tails-you-lose; indeed, to say so is “putting it mild,” at that.

81 Comments

  1. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 9:05 am

    I learned logical probability from Stove, in his The Rationality of Induction, the second half of which is a disquisition on the subject, and is material he wrote before this essay.

    Which is why it surprises me that he would write here that “Probabilities are a sort of graduated capacities…”, which is false. He says, “What we want to know is whether the probability of a woman having d, where d is a given above-average degree of intellectual capacity, is equal to the probability of a man having d.” But this probability doesn’t exist, which Stove himself recognized in Induction. What does exist are things like “Pr(d | E, Sex )” where E is the evidence we have probative of d and knowledge of sex. And even this doesn’t “exist” in any ontological capacity, but it’s theoretically knowable and possibly even computable (though I think it’s unlikely we can come to any firm number).

    No. The argument from probability in this essay fails. But it isn’t needed; it is entirely beside the point. What is relevant are the actual observations of intellectual capacities, and some idea of what might cause differences, just as we’d like some idea of what is causing a coin to land preferentially heads. Stove gave sex differences in reproductive tasks as a causal reason, and this surely has some validity, which is why birth prevention and the killing of the lives inside would-be mothers takes on such monumental importance in our society. Even if this is one of the causes, it surely is not the only one, which Stove also admits.

    What is iron clad, however, are the observations. Take this article on chess grandmasters: “Grandmaster: Men Better At Chess. Or, Data And The Underdetermination Of Theory”. Chess is an intellectual activity, and when I wrote that piece, the worldwide list of grandmasters contained 1413 men and 33 non-men. A gross disparity. But that same disparity is found on lists of, for instance, the world’s greatest mathematicians, physicists, chemists, poets, playwrights, and so on. Conspiracy might account for the disparities, which is a logical truth, but as Stove said, accepting that theory negates the equality theory that women are the (on average or at the extremes) intellectual equals of men. Unless one can posit a conspiracy led everywhere and at all times by intellectually superior women to keep down their sisters, of course. Any takers on that?

  2. I really enjoy this style of writing. Here is the ‘gold’ that I found mine-able:

    It [equality-theory] is not embraced, as far as I can see, on any grounds at all, but from mere prejudice and passion. If you ask people, “What evidence is there for the equality-theory?”, you do not get an answer (though you are likely to get other things).

    Substitute many theories in for ‘equality’ in the above.

    [W]e need to fix in our minds the point that absolutely any observed frequency is consistent with every probability other than 1 and 0. And a consequence is this: where probabilitistic or statistical hypotheses are concerned, consistency with the observed frequency counts for literally nothing in favour of any one hypothesis, because it is a property common to every hypothesis.

    That line is a fascinating point which requires a careful pause and consideration. I think it’s important to remember the scope of the quote is to the consistency of the statements and logic. It brings to mind questions about how to compare reasonableness between propositions.

    [A] person’s testimony should carry no weight or little weight with you, if you are sure or nearly sure that his testimony would have been the same whatever had actually happened

    That might be too limiting a principle, but it is nearer to truth than not (from my view).

    A well-written, cogent, and fascinating essay. It is certainly not for the faint-of-heart, though, as its main topic is so controversial. The underlying logic, probability, and epistomological discussion is fascinating and worthwhile.

  3. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 9:50 am

    James,

    You’re quite quite right to highlight that second quotation. Another way of saying it is that probability cannot discover cause. Therefore, die p-value, die die die.

  4. Well, I got bored half way through the essay, but what bothered me comes at the beginning. Right up front Stove fails to define intellectual capacity and performance. At least Briggs cites some metrics (chess skill, scientific and artistic achievements). What qualifies as a comprehensive metric? And why is this measure even important? Men are more aggressive, instigate most of the wars, and cause most of the avoidable suffering in the world. How does that chalk up against “superior” intellectual capacity and performance?

    Frankly, Stove seems just to have grabbed a juice topic as a hook for making a statistical point. Unfortunately the logic will get lost in the emotions he evokes with the example.

    A better view comes from that great Canadian philosopher, Red Green, who said “I’m pullin’ for ya; we’re all in this together.”
    https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=red+green+all+together&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

  5. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 10:15 am

    Gary,

    No, this topic was not “just grabbed.” And I think you may take it that Stove took the types of intellectual abilities as common knowledge. Why? Because he’s also responsible for, inter alia, the essay, “Jobs for Girls”, which details how universities were preferentially hiring based on sex and not ability.

  6. Briggs,

    Common knowledge, like common sense, isn’t all that common.

    By not defining his terms Stove invites prejudiced thinking and deliberately misconstrued understanding from the equity-all-costs crowd. If his goal was to provoke, fine. That first sentence is begging for a punch in the nose by the nearest feminist. If his goal was clarification of a measuring problem, then why not acknowledge the hook? Just smells like a device to me.

  7. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 10:48 am

    Gary,

    Oh pshaw. The context was well understood. That it was a punch in the face is proof of one of his minor contentions. Here’s the link:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Td7eAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=%22david+stove%22+%22jobs+for+the+girls%22&source=bl&ots=SM9iDKKbVL&sig=dbIaOXEosXUBwU2Ytfi2qwxTm7g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAWoVChMIt4-S8KjWyAIVzHA-Ch0KxQ95#v=onepage&q=%22david%20stove%22%20%22jobs%20for%20the%20girls%22&f=false

    I can’t find the essay by itself.

    More on the “punch”:

    But since intellectual performance is the only guide we have to intellectual capacity, while the intellectual performance of men has always been superior to that of women, the question is an ever fairer one if it turned around, and addressed to the equality-theorist: “What would convince you of the inferior intellectual capacity of women?” And this question is one which many equality-theorists, I think, would not find at all easy to answer. The religious quality of their attachment to their theory is, in many instances, only too obvious.

  8. Men are more diverse, more vulnerable to stupidity and excellence in completely meaningless games, whereas women typically beat them in keeping many balls in air.

    The difference is real, but valueing it as positive is odd. The many aggressive and stupid men are not much good for a modern society. Otoh many important figures are men, and not because their female competitors were ill-treated – despite of your tone here.

  9. 1) “We would need only to blame undetectable interfering factors, or indefinite ones, or merely possible ones, for having so far prevented the exercise of these interesting capacities.”

    Sounds just like the magical CO2 effect multiplier to me..

    2) Before reading this I had not realised that the “equality theorists” are, in fact, denying evolution by implicitly defining “intellectual capacity” only in terms applicable to predominantly male activities. Have to give that some thought – thanks for reproducing this essay.

  10. I always like to point out that you don’t see many women’s names as winners of the Putnam mathematical competition. They had to start another competition for the women so they could win.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lowell_Putnam_Mathematical_Competition

  11. My comments from reading: (I’ll post any answers to comments in a separate comment)
    “But it does mean, for example, that if there is a large number of women at a given above average level of intellectual capacity, then there is an even larger number of men at that level.” Except in government, where Obama’s stupid women have destroyed the economy, polluted rivers, gotten people killed in Benghazi–women are not equal and this is a glaring example of why they are not. Short of Margaret Thatcher and possibly Benezir Bhutto, women destroy countries, not build them up. I would argue that progressivism is the reason for the “sudden adoption” of the belief–it’s useful to destroy self-reliance and achievement in a population and make it ripe for enslavement. Note also that the making of more feminized men added to the process. (i.e., dumbed them down)

    There are wonderful examples of why B never reached his potential, all of which I hear constantly. Stove does a great job of listing the most common ones.

    “My main reason is a quite general principle: that a person’s testimony should carry no weight or little weight with you, if you are sure or nearly sure that his testimony would have been the same whatever had actually happened.” Another example of this is those who believe in paranormal phenomena.

    The equality gods have made women more prevalent at colleges now than men. I don’t know how many are studying physics versus equality studies, however. Also, today women just hire someone to raise their children so I’m not sure how much child-bearing affects their reaching intellectual pinnacle.

  12. Stupidity, avarice, jealousy, greed, rudeness, etc., are all equal opportunity vices. At various times in history both sexes have demonstrated them. Men have been dominant for most of written history in terms of the political power structures, so these evils are, perhaps, most often associated with them. But, I have seen plenty of evidence of the equal demonstration of the above in both men and women. Unfortunately, as I have grown older, I have seen these become more prevalent leading me to the conclusion that society is devolving and has been doing so for the past forty years.

  13. Oh pshaw. The context was well understood. That it was a punch in the face is proof of one of his minor contentions.

    Briggs,

    You’re changing the subject by dragging in the minor contention (which I agree with) that academia is a very unfair place often controlled by progressive politics and not merit. All I want is a simple paragraph defining the essential terms. Otherwise it looks like baiting to me. My point isn’t about whether Stove’s opinion is true or false; it’s about not having enough information to decide — a recurrent theme on this blog.

    So pshaw, yourself. 😉

  14. Gary: It could be argued equally likely that women and their lack of contact with reality and their emoting allow war and terrorism to spread. It only takes one tyrant to wipe out millions of pacifist women who will not fight back and see no point to war, or self-defense for that matter.

    Saying something a feminist would punch you in the nose for is in my book probably a very true statement and should be repeated often. Feminists are so damaging to society that they should be shown for the unthinking, power-hungary twits they are at every chance.
    Unknown Soldier: Women may be responsible for just as much violence in society through their pacifism and lack of contact with reality. Women do “civilize” men to some degree, but total castration can only be considered a bad idea.

    It is NOT wrong to say sexes are not equal nor is it an insult. Why are none of you males screaming that “nappy changing” really is not a contribution to raising children? I would have thought that you “equal gender” types would be screaming that men can raise children just as well as women. In fact, we probably should send women to war and work and let men stay with the kids and see if Utopia results.

    There appear to be far fewer women commenting and reading this blog than men. Why? If the blog were about cosmetic surgery or child-rearing, do you think that statistic would be reversed? Are statistics more intellectual than cosmetic surgery and child-rearing, or less?

  15. So, is the implication that this inferiority is applicable across all subject matters? What are the metrics (proxies) for “intellectual capacity”? Are there social and environmental factors that play a role (i.e. “nurture”) or is this inferiority predisposed (“nature”)?

    Certainly there are areas where men and women naturally differ – the idea that this is somehow bad is lost on me. I’m thankful that my wife and I differ in ways that are ultimately complementary and make our household run smoothly.

    The problem with equality-seeking is that it has come to focus strictly on the outcome. Namely, “equality” for too many means that the number of women = number of men (or pick whatever gender/ethnic/religious attribute you like here). Rather, I think the original intention of equality* movements was to ensure equal opportunity/access in the early stages of development and training (read: education). If you’re able to achieve that (good luck!) and the outcome is equality in gender/race/etc representation in every (or more) fields, great. However, if it doesn’t lead to equal numbers then your theory (model!) is wrong (has poor predictive skill!).

    Question to ponder: If men are superior and can choose whatever career they want, why is it that so many teachers are women? (In 2011–12, some 76 percent of public school teachers were female; source: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=28). The same question can be asked of nursing (There were 3.5 million employed nurses in 2011, about 3.2 million of whom were female and 330,000 male. source: https://www.census.gov/people/io/files/Men_in_Nursing_Occupations.pdf). Is there some type of inequality problem here? Or is there something in our nature that makes women more interested in professions like teaching and nursing? I think these are two areas where you might find that women are “intellectually superior”. This gets back to my original questions at the head of this comment.

    * Note: Equality should never be confused with “fair”. A nuance lost on too many politicians and do-gooders.

  16. After reading this (I too started to skim about 2/3 of the way down), I remembered Murray’s and Herrnstein’s “The Bell Curve”, which made similar points about intellectual differences in ethnic and racial groups in America. Again, whatever the validity of Stove’s or Murray’s thesis about ethnically or racially incapacity might be, the important thing to remember is that individuals can not be judged by statistical or average measures. Remember Emmy Noether and Ada Lovelace, as counter-examples; what university would not want to hire them? Remember David Blackwell, a Negro statistician and President of the NAS. And to show how obstacles have existed, even recently, read Jonathan Farley’s article about his experiences:
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/apr/12/black-mathematicians-john-derbyshire-fields-medal
    I would say that Stove’s article is not useful whether true or not; in the tendency to generalize one would apply his and Murray’s suppositions to individuals. The only way in which such generalizations might be useful is in projects dealing with large groups of people–for example, in giving money for educational projects.

    PS–I wonder what Stove would have to say about racial capacities in sports?

  17. for “ethnically or racially incapacity” read “ethnically or racially derived incapacity”…. PROOF READ !

  18. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Bob,

    Neother etc. are not counter-examples. They are perfectly in line with Stove’s thesis, which he says right at the beginning.

    He did have something indirectly to say about racial capacity in sports, by noting (in another book) of the obvious differences between races.

    Andy,

    The difficulty seems to be that “intellectual capacity”, of the kind Stove meant, is seen as a good. But this is not the only good in human reasoning, as several have noted already. And as Stove himself recognized in the essay when describing mother-child relationships, admitting that men have less capacity here.

    All,

    Stove’s challenge is an excellent one, however. See my previous comment about what evidence would it take to convince you the equality thesis is wrong.

  19. Matt, I’m perfectly aware that Stove distinguished between individual and general attributions, as did Murray. My point is that people take the generalization as a basis to make judgments about individuals, and so the generalizations are not really useful–the fault lies with what most people do with the generalization.

  20. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Bob,

    That generalizations are not really useful is false. That some use them badly is true. That because some use generalizations badly therefore generalizations are not useful or are false is, of course, a fallacy. Pretending true generalizations don’t exist to mitigate or block potential harm caused by the potential misuse of generalizations has always been a failure, and is intellectually dishonest.

    Here is an example of a generalization badly used. “Vastly more men than women are chess grandmasters. I am a man. Therefore, I am better at chess than women.” Here is another, “Vastly more men than women are chess grandmasters. Therefore any who speak of this fact is sexist.”

  21. Matt, I gave an example where a generalization about different racial intellectual capacities might be useful. Could you give me an example where applying Stove’s generalization male and female intellectual capacities might be useful? There is a distinction between propositions which are true and propositions that are useful, I assert.

  22. By the way, I’m not saying that one should be prohibited from asserting that which is true but not useful. What I would maintain, is that I would have regarded Stove’s proposition much more favorably if he had put more emphasis on the difference between judging individuals and making class judgments.

  23. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    Bob,

    Certainly. Before you are a man and a woman, both the same age. Given the observations we have of chess players, who is more likely to be better at chess? That’s probability. Now usefulness. You can only pick one to join your chess team. Which would you pick, given you’re desirous of having the best chance to win?

  24. And I”m also saying that my remarks are in no way intended to justify quotas based on sex or race for jobs, college admissions, etc.

  25. Matt, that’s a fairly artificial example, because I’m sure that in practice one would inquire about the won/loss record in previous matches. In the same way in hiring for an academic position one would look at references, publications, etc.

  26. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 1:56 pm

    Now, Bob, if you’re trying to claim men and women have the same intellectual abilities with regard to, say, chess and mathematical physics, just say so. But then, as Stove requested, say why. Or do you agree that it is clear that their abilities are different?

    Addendum The example is scarcely contrived. “Gathering additional data” is not always possible, and, indeed, data collection must always stop. For fun, suppose they both are, as yet, untrained. No win and loss record. Quick. Make a decision. Or are you reluctant to? If so, why?

  27. On further reflection, Matt, I think your example shows what I think is the problem with applying class and probability considerations to individual situations….One is tempted to use the probablity consideration, rather than gathering additional data.

  28. Obviously I’m not saying that male and female intellectual capacities are the same on average in all disciplines. But I do say I know of many female physicists who are sharper than I in physics. I know of one female auto mechanic who has more insight than I into mechanical problems. And of my five children, the only one who seemed to have any mathematical talent, was one daughter.
    Here’s another interesting thing to wonder about. If you look at the composition by sex in symphony orchestras, you’ll find a preponderance of females in the strings, a more or less equal distribution in the woodwinds (even including bassoons), and a preponderance of males in the percussion and brass.
    Any speculations as to why that is so? Nevertheless, in auditioning a male and female violist, you would not automatically prefer the female. In auditioning a male and female trombonist, you would not automatically prefer the male. Probability may be use in dealing with large numbers of events, but with respect to individual human events–I’m not so sure.

  29. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    Bob,

    “Obviously I’m not saying that male and female intellectual capacities are the same on average in all disciplines.” Which is the same as saying they’re different, which is the same as saying a generalization is true, which is to say, we agree.

    About modern orchestra composition, I haven’t a clue. About composers…

  30. To continue with the musical example (and music requires in some respects more intellectual capacity than math or science): most conductors (but not all) are male); most classical composers (but not all) have been / are male. Winners of instrumentalist concerts…piano, violin seem to be more or less equally partitioned between male and female. Any reasons why this might be so?

  31. Briggs

    October 22, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    Bob,

    “Winners of instrumentalist concerts…piano, violin seem to be more or less equally partitioned between male and female. Any reasons why this might be so?”

    I have no idea.

  32. Matt said “For fun, suppose they both are, as yet, untrained. No win and loss record. Quick. Make a decision. Or are you reluctant to? If so, why?” To make your example more compatible with a real world situation, I’d keep them both on provisionally and see how they’d do after a week or so of effort.

  33. I have serious problems with the absence of definition(s) of ‘intellectual capacity’.

    Stove seems to be saying that more men are grand master’s at chess than women and this is support for his claim. Ditto for mathematics and physics.

    In the past this was the situation for medicine and engineering. In some jurisdictions there are,now, more women in medical school then men. Using Stove’s arguments am I then to claim that women have more ‘intellectual medical capacity’ than men?

    I doubt it.

    With chess grandmasters, physicists and mathematicians we are looking at something like .001% of the human population. Bound to be some odd capabilities amongst such a small percentage of the human population but why make a huge generalization from such a small group?

    I don’t know what is going on when a ‘genius’ shows up on this earth. Nothing I know accounts for Dante, Shakespeare, Richard Feynman or an Emily Dickinson. On Brigg’s consistent advice I’ve ruled out ‘random and chance’ as causing anything. We just don’t know.

    The rest of us recognize the talent, of a Feynman or a Dickinson, and salute them.

    As a serious entrance to the fray I must say I don’t even agree with Stove’s comments about the biased coin. After several hundred tosses, I agree there is some evidence it has a slight ‘bias’ to turn up heads. However, we all know that it is possible that the next thirty tosses could turn up tails. Stove seems to claim that I’m being irrational to have some doubts about the claim of bias.

    I’ve read Stove’s paper before. My suspicion then, and my suspicion now, is that he was reacting to the effort by various universities to obtain a better balance between men and women. Commenting on those efforts would take me beyond Stove’s paper.

    May the ‘force’ that generates typos be absent from this comment.

    Great Blog and great source of thought provoking comments.

  34. Bob: We could apply the generalization to the idea that throwing all kinds of money into making girls scientists and mathematicians is wasted if in reality women are not avoiding math and science because of the educational system but because it’s just not a girl’s thing. We waste millions trying to turn girls into what they do not want to be in the name of “equality”. The generalization could be useful in that case.

  35. Matt, I’ve thought of one example where Stove’s generalization might be useful. There’s a Science Fair; teams are from 5 all-male and 5 all-female schools. A bookie is offering odds of 51/49 for any individual team. What would be your best strategy? I’d guess equal bets on each of the male teams. But I could be wrong if the all-female schools were much more selective than the all-male. That is, however, the only sort of event where probability considerations MIGHT be operative.

  36. For every instance of a chess grandmaster there seems to be an instance of the moron working as hard as he can to remove himself from the gene pool. This seems to be obsevervational evidence: there are more men at the top, but also more men at the bottom. There is of course also the evidence of “g” as measured by the so called intelligence tests, which seem to also indicate a wider variability of male intelligence over female intelligence.

  37. As an example, the “Florida Man” meme of moronic men doing really stupid things. “Florida Woman” exists as well but tends to be less prevalent in the news at least.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/_FloridaMan

  38. Nate, enlighten me, a statistics novice. Would you be saying the probability distribution for males has a higher mean and greater standard deviation than that for females? Or does the distribution for males have two maxima?

  39. Everyone knows the IQ distribution is wider for men and there are more men in the tails. That’s why there are 90% men in the mental and penal institutions. Obviously craziness and criminality are not equally distributed among men and women nor is genius. So far there hasn’t been any female Shakespeare or Gauss.

  40. I forgot to mention no female Mozart either. Look at what Mozart composed in 10 years when he lived in Vienna. Absolutely mind boggling.

  41. I wouldn’t say its a probability distribution. A score “g” is measured by an IQ test. Among those that take the test, it appears more men score with a high g, and others a low g, compared to women who take the test. Whether “g” measures what stove calls intellectual capacity is a different question sicnce he doesn’t define it. No probability model, just descriptive statistics

  42. Three random remarks.

    A) I agree with Stove that Chesterton’s phrase about Christianity “not being tried” is “supremely silly.” (But then, I think that of many of Chesterton’s remarks).

    I also agree with Stove that, if we take his argument seriously, “[i]n fact we know, or near-enough know, that Christianity does not have the capacity, which it claims to have, to satisfy indefinitely the religious aspiration of all human beings.”

    I do point out, however, that the same can be said of marriage, e.g.: “in fact we know, or near-enough know, that marriage does not have the capacity, which it claims to have, to satisfy indefinitely the sexual aspiration of all human beings.”

    So maybe there’s a teeny-tiny ‘imagination pump’ in Stove’s original remark — meaning that it adduces evidence for a conclusion a bit less portentous than he might like us to arrive at.

    B) I am perplexed by Bob Kurland’s perplexity about treating people as ‘individuals’. In the first instance, in all Western polities, it is illegal in at least some circumstances, in practice or in law, to hire and fire a person as an individual, rather than as a member of some group. In the US, it may soon become illegal to treat a person’s comportment in his grade or high school as if he were an ‘individual’, rather than as a member of some group.

    And if the one single thing that I knew about an ‘individual’ was that he was a male, I would be totally unsurprised if he demonstrated a higher propensity for violence than a female. Why would this be out of bounds?

    C) Applying Stove’s same criteria, African American economist Thomas Sowell has suggested that Black females — who regularly demonstrate higher achievement than Black males — have higher IQs than black males. And the U.S. military’s 1997 renorming of the AFQT to IQ scores in fact shows Black females with mean IQ 2.4 points higher than Black males.

  43. If you need a definition for ‘Intellectual Capacity’, perhaps you have topped out.

  44. “One of the surprising privileges of intellectuals is that they are free to be scandalously asinine without harming their reputations.”
    – Eric Hoffer

    Hoffer was, of course, correct…but his famous quote [above] doesn’t exclude the fact that some intellectuals can also be sufficiently scandalously asinine to do real harm to their reputations.

  45. Ken, comm’n now, are you implying that Briggs is an intellectual. You and I are both a long, long time reader of this blog, though we both may not read this blog daily. I don’t know if you remember, but I seem to recall that Briggs has written several posts attempting to turn the term “intellectual,” like the term “ liberal,” into a dirty word ! So, how could it be possible that he is an intellectual? 🙂

  46. Sander van der Wal

    October 22, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    why on earth is anybody bothered by this? All you have to do to see whether that particular woman is smart is by talking with her. The same procedure one would use for a particular man. Nobody gets smarter or dumber because of averages.

  47. I BELIEVE THAT the intellectual capacity of women is on the whole inferior to that of men. By “on the whole,” I do not mean just “on the average”; though I do mean that much. My belief is, if you take any degree of intellectual capacity which is above average for the human race, as a whole, then a possessor of that degree of intellectual capacity is a good deal more likely to be man than a woman.

    Well, this is definitely true if the intellectual capacity is measured by the skull size or penis size. No need to adjust for any socialdemographic factors.

    I SUSPECT that the intellectual capacity of men is on the whole inferior to that of women. By “on the whole,” I do not mean just “on the average”; though I do mean that much. My reason is, if you take any degree of intellectual capacity which is below average for the human race, as a whole, then a possessor of that degree of intellectual capacity is a good deal more likely to be a man than a woman.

    Briggs, Briggs, Briggs, you sure are a closet frequentest!!!

  48. Sander,
    You’ll have to let me in on the secret of determining intelligence by talking to people. In all my years of teaching I have never figured that one out. I always need to wait for the exam results.

  49. Wit’s End: Are there more women in med school because women are smarter or medical schools dumbed down for women?

    Bob: When I was in 3rd grade, I built an electrical circuit for a science fair. The other girls tested baking and dish soap. In order for the example to work, both science fair teams would have to be assigned identical problems. (Science fairs may not be a good choice anyway. I saw girl get to State level testing orange juices and using Sunny D as if it were orange juice. No one bothered to tell her Sunny D is sugar and orange flavoring, they just let her go on in the competition.)

    JH: I did not know women had penises. Skulls, yes. Penises, no. I suppose you would argue that if we used breast sizes to measure intellect, then women would be the higher intellect.

    It is interesting that men are so bothered by this whole discussion. Has this blog suddenly gone PC and there’s a fear of being slapped by a militant feminist or what?

  50. Scotian: exams are a trick that doesn’t need genius to figure out how to excel at.

  51. JH: I did not know women had penises. Skulls, yes. Penises, no. I suppose you would argue that if we used breast sizes to measure intellect, then women would be the higher intellect.

    Sheri, hence penis size for woman is zero. Just tried to offer cases that Stove can be correct.

    No, not going to spend anymore time arguing whether women have higher intellect. Spending time on such topic can impede one’s intellectual capacity.

  52. andyn,

    You think that because you have never written one of my exams.

  53. JH: Spending time on such topics cannot impede one’s intellectual “capacity”. That’s a given–you either have it or you don’t.

    Scotian: I would love to see an example of one your exams. Idle curiosity, perhaps, but you speak very highly of them and I am curious to see how they are so special.

  54. One last word, and then I’m going to shut up…might have better done that initially, but oh well…
    One big flaw I see in Stove’s argument is that he does not distinguish between various types of intelligence–mathematical, verbal, musical, etc. And there is, I believe, a cultural effect on performance. My example, way back in the 1940’s and 50’s when I was a teen-ager, science-fiction great authors were almost all male–heinlein, asimov, van Vogt, etc. As time went on more and more female sf authors became famous, and now you’ll have as many if not more female sf authors receiving Hugo’s and Nebula awards. Surely, there hasn’t been a step increase in capacity of females to write sf in these 50 years. So what does one conclude?
    By the way, I’m not sure who mentioned the probability of a male being more violent than a female, without other info. I’m not so sure, reading about gangs of females beating up people, and within my circle of family and friends, hearing about violent females. Small sample? Yep… but if we’re relying on personal experience…

  55. Surely Bob you are aware of the recent politicization of the Hugo and Nebula awards which have degenerated to the level of the Nobel peace prize. Most of recent, 20 to 30 years, of SF is unreadable.

  56. Sheri, let’s assume you are right, do you have it? Assuming that you have it, let me ask you the following question – if one either has it or one doesn’t, what do you think Stove meant by saying “degree of intellectual capacity” and “above average”?

  57. JH: “if one either has it or one doesn’t, what do you think Stove meant by saying “degree of intellectual capacity” and “above average”?”
    It means exactly what Stove said—there is a capacity and some have a greater capacity than others, with some above average and some below. It seems pretty straightforward.

    People have varying degrees of musical capacity, athletic capacity, etc. Why would intellect be different?

  58. Going to have to cogitate on this one.
    E.g. Cannot accept that music requires intellectual capacity. Etc.
    But cannot define intellectual capacity acceptably either.

    Mind you all.
    My wife is smarter than I. She is also more courageous than I. And she is on occasion the epitome of vicious.
    But if the discussion veers to math, physics, engineering or shall I say something requiring intellectual fortitude – she caves. I would accept some kind of inhibiting social factor if it were not for the fact that she is fearless under most circumstances. I have come to believe that chemistry is important.

  59. “Cannot accept that music requires intellectual capacity,” said Bob… Can you write a fugue that equals any ones of those by Bach or Mozart? 🙂

  60. (If you force me to, I’ll subject our fellow readers to the “derivation” of Bob from Bill S…)

  61. @JH: “…comm’n now, … I seem to recall that Briggs has written several posts attempting to turn the term “intellectual,” like the term “ liberal,” into a dirty word ! So, how could it be possible that he is an intellectual?”

    Definition: “An intellectual is a person who engages in critical study, thought, and reflection about the reality of society, and proposes solutions for the normative problems of that society, and, by such discourse in the public sphere, he or she gains authority within the public opinion.”

    That’s from Wikipedia, so we know it must be right…

    What’s interesting the credence given to Stove’s crass essay when Stove himself wasn’t too fond of it, as reported:
    Volume / Issue 01 / January 2001, pp 149-157 The Royal Institute of Philosophy 2001, The Intellectual Capacity of David Stove

    Abstract

    David Stove’s essay “The intellectual capacity of women” was first published in 1990, in the Proceedings of a Sydney philosophical society. It has been re-published twice since his death. It seems though that during his lifetime Stove himself refused to agree to its being re-printed. This raises two questions: Did Stove believe his essay on women contains mistakes? And: does it contain mistakes?

    The main flaws in the essay stem from a rash adoption of simplistic ideas about probability coupled with a question-begging definition of capacity. The work also contains contradictions and exaggerations and some unwise forays into social history. Stove was an intelligent man so it seems likely that he would have recognised those flaws.

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=64567&fileId=S0031819101000109

  62. Sheer folly is about the only reaction I have to this post by you Briggs; with maybe a hint of desparation. As for Stove; he explains rather inconvincingly what science has already documented to be untrue. This is truly one of your worst moves if your goal is to attract and inform.

  63. Briggs

    October 23, 2015 at 9:15 am

    Very well Dixon, demonstrate for us “what science has documented to be untrue.”

    Only quickly, this: http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/sexdifferences.aspx

  64. Ken: Maybe Stove lacked the patience to put up with politically correct discussions of his essay. He must have recognized, as indicated in the essay, that people would engage in all types of rationalizations and twisted logic in an effort to avoid what is socially a very unacceptable idea–that the sexes are not equal. Reading here, his assessment was spot on.

    I ask again why none of you males screamed and shouted about Stove saying men are not good at parenting and that changing nappies is just playing at parenting? You fear saying women as a whole lack the intellectual capacity of men, but you don’t care that your role as a father is completely denigrated by this essay? Wow, the women really have castrated most of the men.

    I have to ask: How many of you feared your wife would catch you reading this article and quit reading out of fear of her reaction? I’m betting many of you felt that piercing stare even if the wife was at work or gone shopping (oh, sorry, was out discussing quantum mechanics with the other women and working on a new form of calculus). Yet none of you see the use of fear by women as anything but intellectual, it seems. I do not count fear as intellectual, though obviously it is effective.

  65. Sander van der Wal

    October 23, 2015 at 10:48 am

    @Sheri

    Men in general are not the father of your children. Children have one particular male as a father, and the only issue is whether he’s good at parenting.

  66. Sander van der Wal: Yes, and one woman in physics is not a generalization but some here are using that one example as a reason to discard the whole idea of women being intellectual. (I note you carefully avoided saying if diaper changing and being at the birth are indeed just playing at parenting.)

  67. Sheri:

    I doubt that medical school has been ‘dumbed’ down for women. The situation might vary by jurisdiction (country or licensing authority). However, in the jurisdiction where I live the final tests are the same for men and women.

    The tests are long and arduous and vary as the person takes the exam. Screens open at the beginning of the exam and depending on the individual’s answer to a particular question different questions appear.

    No one I’ve talked to has suggested there is any difference in the tests for any particular group of students.

    I suspect that the increase in women going to medical school has to do with changes in levels of education in the society at large, over the last 50 years. As more parents have experience with post-secondary education more children are encouraged to attend some form of post-secondary education.

  68. https://www.aamc.org/download/52732/data/witzburg.pdf
    ‘Boston University School of Medicine affirms its longstanding commitment to inclusion of groups which have been subject to discrimination and which, without special commitment, would not be represented among our students in meaningful numbers. A diverse student body is consistent with the history and mission of Boston University School of Medicine and is a core educational imperative of the institution for a number of reasons, including the following:’The ability to understand and value a patient’s culture is a key element of physician competence and is best taught by life experience, rather than as an abstract object of study’

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/nyregion/30medschools.html “Getting into med school without hard sciences”

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/02/the-changing-face-of-medical-school-admissions/?_r=0
    Nevertheless, 43 of the nation’s 141 medical schools have already expressed interest in adopting some form of the holistic review approach

    It looks things have definately changed and it looks biased toward women and progressivism at this point. “Hard science” is becoming irrelevant when going into a field that is all about “hard science”.

  69. Re: dumbing down qualifications at medical school, how is that programs which are in relative infancy (and tentative) or not widely practiced (schools just showing interest) are capable of generating more female (presumably inferior) students in the here and now? Sure, they’ve become more “diverse” but how much of that is racial diversity vs. gender diversity? How many women can we say for certain would never have been there if not for these small programs?

    Also Sheri, you aren’t the only to take notice of Stove’s nebulous definitions of “nurturing” and downplaying the role fathers can play in lives of an infant. Outside of birth and breastfeeding, men are physically capable of doing pretty much anything a woman can when caring for an infant, whether the idea appeals to them or not is different matter. This is why I think chess tournaments aren’t an adequate measure of general intelligence (or chess-playing capacity), the competitions aren’t compulsory, and chess isn’t a terribly popular leisure activity. The people who compete in them will have a particular interest in chess, and enjoy competition. I don’t know if women have a particular dislike for strategy games, but women are supposedly less likely to care about competition, preferring cooperative activities.

    I have other issues with Stove’s Hunting hypothesis, he doesn’t explain why hunting live prey cannot include an intuitive element, making tracking and killing prey less a rational process and more a holistic process and thus less intellectually demanding. Stove also doesn’t say why he expects the same evolutionary pressures to be in play today, white men don’t typically hunt for food, they buy it at the supermarket, and those who do hunt tend not to limit themselves to the tools an early human would have. He doesn’t offer evidence that “paleo-nerds” have actually experienced more reproductive success than a dumber but stronger or more sociable peer making his origin story less compelling. What he says seems plausible and I suspect a certain appeal is due to males resentfully ceding ground in society as a whole (anti-feminist backlash), but this isn’t enough to make it true.

  70. Common Core math writers would agree with those of you who think it’s sterotypes that cause men to be better mathemeticians. Who needs multiplication tables and theorems when you can just think your way to an answer that may or may not be right. It’s more important to feel good about yourselves, I know.

  71. One excellent example would be that of epigenetics, and/or mapping the human genome rather than mapping the male human genome or female human genome. I’m not a feminist but I don’t confuse personal sentiment with Waddington’s epigentic landscape. A series of evolutionary checks and balances ensures that neither the maternal or paternal genome gets the upper hand and this continues throughout human life. Nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes. There’s just too much fraternising with the enemy.

  72. “Update It is becoming obvious many are ignoring the admonition to actually read the entire argument.. ”

    But, but, reading the article FIRST is sooooo constraining to the discussion…

  73. Yeah. I didn’t read the entire argument. It seems that the entire argument could have been covered in a few hundred less words. It was interesting, but I am not stupid enough to tell my wife and daughter that they are intellectually deficient.

  74. Aside. Sheri. It is October in Wyoming. What are you doing inside typing to a blog.

    All. Still cogitating. So far I am only willing to give intellectual capacity to mathematicians and some physicists. Dirac yes Einstein no. Bach did not make the cut.

  75. What on earth is Intellectual Capacity? Can you compare all men to all women (and other genders)? How? Using what criteria ?
    With my lack of capacity to untangle this mishmash I decided that it was written by Lewis Carroll. as evidence I cite
    Through the Looking Glass.

    When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
    ‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’

    >>…
    Impenetrability! That’s what I say!

  76. Milton Hathaway

    October 24, 2015 at 5:39 am

    I only got about half-way through the Stove essay, and to be honest, I’m surprised I got that far. I found all the references to “everyone” and “no one” a tad condescending. And it felt annoyingly repetitive, sort of a dissertational masturbation. (I wouldn’t presume to call it bad writing, it just wasn’t my cup of tea.)

    But most of all, it just seemed pointless. Unless the point was to annoy, antagonize or demoralize women, in which case it no doubt succeeded at least to some extent.

    Yes, men and women are different, but humans differ more as individuals than we do as groups. So pre-judging an individual based on group membership is pointless. And certainly immoral in my book.

    Should a man take some comfort in the proposition of higher intellectual capacity of his gender? No matter how smart he is, there will be a practically unlimited number of women with higher intellectual capacity. How comforting can that be?

    My chosen profession, engineering, has proven remarkably resistant to all efforts to recruit more women. That said, it would be quite unwise for a male engineer to presume intellectual superiority to a female engineer on the basis of Stove’s essay; the population of female engineers is anything but a random sample.

    It’s human nature to group people and generalize characteristics, probably some sort of survival mechanism for split-second decision making. But there was absolutely nothing split-second about Stove’s essay.

    It seems to me that if you are inclined to use that many words in an essay, you should have a point.

  77. Bill S: Had extensive dental work, developed a dry socket, etc. Would love to be outside and able to eat the beautiful tomatoes I grew. Life’s not fair!
    (Thanks for the very astute observation also.)

    Milton: Should a man take some comfort in the proposition of higher intellectual capacity of his gender? I don’t know. If we observe that men are generally taller to women is that superiority or just a biological generalization? I’m pretty sure at the rate this is going, it will be. No one group can be fatter, taller, thinner, etc than another. All humans are tall, whether they are 4″11″ or 7″11″ and they will be playing basketball together and believing all is equal. Heck, we’re almost there.

    The major reason given for not reading the essay was it was “against women”. (I see actual fear in many of the responses concerning suggesting women read this essay. No one mentions it out of fear, just like no one says anything about racial differences or physical differences anymore, even when the death of innocent people results.) Readers own conclusion that equality of the sexes was taken as absolutely correct and could not be questioned. IF the essay had said “Women and men are equal in intellectual capacity”, I doubt if anyone would have stopped reading and demanded an explanation of what intellectual capacity is. After all, most of you believe this religiously and would have been happy to read the essay to confirm that believe. This is a fascinating look at just how far progressives have gone to erase any evidence or even thoughts that all humans are not equal. I would also note that an essay saying “Democrats have more intellectual capacity than Republicans” would have been read without question on most college campuses.

  78. Article was stupid when it was first written and remains stupid today. Why inferior minds embarrass themselves by promoting it, is perhaps the most remarkable thing about it. Put aside Stove’s pedantic and tedious writing style and his inept sociobiological just-so speculations. In a nutshell his claim is this: performance is our best proxy for intelligence. Therefore, a century ago, we would rightly conclude that Asians and Indians were intellectually inferior to Westerners. And today — comparing their performances in Western schools to Westerners — vastly more intelligent. Not good arguments then, are they?

    Again, the most remarkable thing about this essay is not its contents, but the determination of those who endorse it to make fools of themselves.

  79. My problem with the article is it seems to have a weird definition of intellectual capacity. If it was changed to say that there are more men who are high intellectual achievers (or of high intellectual capacity), it would go down a bit easier.

    It would appear that in some fields, especially those that are heavily mathematical, there are far more men than women as high achievers. That suggests that maybe more men than women have extraordinary intellectual capacity. It does not mean that men have more intellectual capacity than women, just that more men have extraordinary capacity. IQ tests, which seem to be fairly meaningful, say (if my memory and sources are right) that there is a wider dispersion among men or women, but not that the mean score is different. A higher dispersion would be consistent with both more men with unusually high capacity, and more men with unusually low capacity, and that is what IQ tests show. It is a bit harder to say that general observation shows that, as those with extraordinary high values are more noticeable than their extraordinary low counterparts.

    However, my preferred formulation is also very un-PC, as Larry Summers discovered.

  80. From Psychology Today:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201410/are-men-really-more-intelligent-women

    It appears this topic is much like global warming—no science is possible due to the extreme politicalization of the issue.

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